The fabric in the Sugoi's---is it denser than the 2006 model? I love those shorts, but I found the fabric to be a little too sheer for my taste (they are great for wearing on the trainer, with just my husband and dogs around!). I was tempted to get the 2007 edition but decided not to because I was worried they might be too sheer.

If you get the Gores in solid black, I will be tempted to get a pair. Even though I'm a bibs girl now, I'm not averse to having some regular shorts. The chamois in these looks different from those in the windstopper full bib tights (which I just LOVE---keep me warm in the worst of the winter cold/wind). How does it compare to the chamois in the tights (I believe it was red fabric)?