Obese? Really?

[nicole309]

After reading all the posts on here about weight issues, I have decided to post one that has been bothering me for a while.
In February I went to the bike expo in Seattle and they had this machine that measures a variety of things like body fat, weight, etc...
Then it gives an overall asessment of your health. There are the following groups Average, Overfat, and the worst Obese. Yes, I was rated obese!!
I am 5'10" tall and weigh 162 lbs. Which sounds like a lot, but I am tall!! I wear a size 8 for the most part, sometimes a 6 sometimes a 10, you know how it goes!!
I know that overall Americans are quite an unhealthy lot, and maybe I spend too much time comparing myself to other people and have lost sight of my own health. I'm not saying I couldn't lose a few pounds, that I couldn't afford to make a few diet changes. But obese? Really?

[LBTC]

Nicole, I agree with you! Your weight for your height is perfectly normal. I thought that as soon as read your specs, but then I checked this http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/ BMI calculator and it puts you right in the normal range.

Was the device meant for elite athletes? Did they have a weight loss product to sell? Regardless of their reasons, I think that their measuring device is grossly inaccurate! Yikes!

Your weight makes my 135 pounds on a 5' 1 1/2" frame ghastly overweight - and I would not consider myself obese either.

If you feel good, are healthy, and your clothes fit, don't worry. Enjoy life and be happy with your nicely functioning body!

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

[teigyr]

Nicole, we are about the same size only you might be smaller than me. I'm 5'11" but am a fairly solid size 10. I am so glad I didn't see that at the Expo or I would be scarred for life.

I know as a population, we're getting bigger and we take that for granted. I always read about the effects such as larger hospital beds, extra-sturdy chairs, and all of that. I think that is obese....we might not be extra-skinny models but we're healthy. I know people who are obese who eat unhealthy food and complain that it's impossible to lose weight. That isn't us.

Gads. I'm sorry you had to experience that.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Don't forget that muscle is denser and heavier than an equal volume of fat. People with more muscles tend to get rated as having excessive body fat instead with some of these dumb evaluating systems. There is no WAY you are obese! Fools invent such things.

[nicole309]

Thanks for your comments. I just wanted to ask. Mostly, I didn't expect anyone to say that I really am obese, but it is just frustrating.
They were trying to sell something, the machine that gives all this information. It mostly just looks like a bathroom scale, but supposedly measures weight distribution etc...
I actually asked the guy if they ever sell any of the things with those kind of results? I can't imagine!
I have looked at BMI charts and just using height and weight is really not a good indicator for me. I have actually weighed less and been a bigger size than I am now.
I actually have a pretty good body image overall, but that whole thing really scared me.

[Jolt]

Were you perhaps a bit dehydrated? That can throw off the accuracy of some of those devices if they are the kind that sends a small electric current through the tissues to measure body fat. If I remember correctly, fat has a lower percentage of water than muscle, so that would mean that if you were somewhat dehydrated it might have read a higher percentage of fat than you actually have.

[nicole309]

Were you perhaps a bit dehydrated? That can throw off the accuracy of some of those devices if they are the kind that sends a small electric current through the tissues to measure body fat. If I remember correctly, fat has a lower percentage of water than muscle, so that would mean that if you were somewhat dehydrated it might have read a higher percentage of fat than you actually have.

Interesting...
The results did say that I was a bit dehydrated that day. You would think if it knew that, it would also know that it was muscle and not fat!!

[LBTC]

It mostly just looks like a bathroom scale, but supposedly measures weight distribution etc...

If it's anything like the Tanita body fat scale that I use, it's obvious to me that you would need to set your personal settings up as athlete. Somehow that setting understands that it's more muscle than fat, or something like that.

I'm glad you're happy with your body. Yay!

Hugs and butterflies,
~T~

[Torrilin]

A rough sanity check for light boned women is 100 + (height in inches - 60)*5. That gives you pretty much the numbers on a doctor's height and weight chart... and that puts a 5'10" woman at 160 lbs. It's fairly reasonable to have around a +/- 20 lbs variation around that estimate (tho that still leaves some heavy boned women overweight on paper and bordering on underweight in reality).

There's really no substitute for knowing your own body tho. If you've historically been healthy at 155, or 170, and your measurements have changed, then your current weight probably isn't ok.

[KnottedYet]

That scale at Bike Expo sounds like a crock. I'm 2 inches shorter than you and weigh nearly the same... and I don't think ANYONE would call me "obese"!!!

[echidna]

That was a BS measurement. BodPod??? Anything that's even remotely connected to bioelectrical impedance has to be taken with a huge grain of salt (and, sadly, hydration and electrolyte levels will throw your results off, so you can see where this is headed, right?).
Look at it this way: the lowest cutoff for clinically "obese" is 30% bodyfat.
If they estimated your bodyfat to be EXACTLY 30%, that would mean that yor fat-free mass would be 113 pounds, and if you were 15% bodyfat (about the lowest that a female should be at unless they're in contention for Olympic gold), you would weigh 130. That is to say, if they were correct (and you are currently obese), you would be fit, lean, and healthy at 130#. Now imagine yourself down 32#. Would you be lean and fit, or would you be emaciated? If it's the latter, which sounds correct, you've just mathematically proven that you are not "obese" at your current weight.

[DarcyInOregon]

Nicole, what did they determine besides declaring you obese? Did you get a body composition breakdown as to what you lean body mass is in pounds and your body fat in pounds?

A fitness expert gave me a body composition test about three weeks ago, accurate to within 3%. She made certain I was hydrated, and scheduled my test for several days in advance just to make sure I drank a lot of water. I got a printout that told me everything about my body composition. I am 53 years old, I am 5'8", and my lean body mass is 145 pounds. She did not think this was an error because she scrutinized my body and she could see and feel my hard cyling muscles. I also told her I had a bone scan last year and that my bone density measured at over 100% on the scale they used, meaning I was over their top number for calibration, therefore my bones weigh more than most women my age. I need to lose 40 pounds of fat, which is information I wanted because I am a person who used to be heavier, and others might thing OMG she is fat at 40 pounds - but I am happy because it is the light at the end of the tunnel for me. And I am told I should weigh 188 pounds to be at a 23% body fat, which was really useful information because if I didn't know this, and I got to 188, I would have killed myself trying to get to 150, thinking that is what I should weigh, and if I had, I could only have reached that weight by losing muscle and bone weight.

You should have received the same type of information as I did. My advice is to get another body composition test, but from a reliable place, and then compare the two results. If the second body composition test shows you with a low lean body mass number, then my second piece of advice is to get to the doctor and get a bone scan and make sure you are not losing bone density.

Darcy

[Trek420]

That scale at Bike Expo sounds like a crock. I'm 2 inches shorter than you and weigh nearly the same... and I don't think ANYONE would call me "obese"!!!

I'd call you "just right"

Now I see the problem, I'm not overweight, I'm "underhieght"

I would like to loose weight, I'm arguably 20+ lbs over what my Dr reccomends but 50 over the charts.

My previous PCP (now retired) said to forget about the charts. If you're athletic they don't tell the whole story.

He told me that if I weighed the recommended 105'ish at 5'1" I'd loose muscle to achieve that goal. His opinion was he'd rather see me active and weighing more than sedentary and or weak and hit that number.

So while I just got a scale again after a long time without I go by how my clothes fit, how I feel and how I'm doing on the bike and not the scale. I've dropped 4 pants sizes cycling .... and stayed the same weight, it just turned to muscle.

[nicole309]

Thanks for all the numbers and charts. I like that kind of stuff.
Darcy, I think I was hoping for something like the composition test you were talking about. The test gave me a lot of that information, much of which I am trying to remember. It is still hanging on my fridge at home.
I guess if nothing else it gave me the motivation to ride more!!

[DarcyInOregon]

Nicole, your story reminded me of another story. A few weeks ago the big news story was about some diet expert lady calling Jordin, the 17-year-old winner of AI, obese. I think if anyone wants to read it they can Google the story. This diet expert said when she sees Jordin, she sees "diabetes and other illness in her future." For the record, Jordin is 5'11", her father is a former pro-athlete, meaning Jordin is athletic herself, and she wears a size 12. I was shocked. What is happening when people can proclaim on national news that a young athletic girl, tall and fit, is obese? It makes no sense to me. Jordin is certainly less than 30% body fat. She looks great in her clothes and she has a flat tummy.

Darcy