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  1. #16
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    Johnny Hit and Run Pauline is, um...., a bit risque but good!

    Interesting mix of songs! I always used Born to Run as a good driving song.

    Oh and speaking of, have not run this week. For some reason, the motivation is lacking.

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    Oh, wow the Crystals. Here's a version for the Harry Potter fans... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjesd...elated&search=

    Hee, hee... this version is for MimiTabby. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRy_aSz6pxs
    Last edited by Xrayted; 06-12-2007 at 09:08 AM.
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  3. #18
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    So the water belt - is crrrr@p (so far anyway) - coupled with a full size bottle (only ones in our household) it kept bouncing, no matter how I pushed it down on my hips and the bottle bumping into my back bone. I ended up carrying the bottle.

    "Almost first" lunchtime run (4K) in sticky heat. It was ok but I was tired in the pm.
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  4. #19
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    I used to have that problem. Ultimately I had to switch to a camelback. Geeky, but much more comfortable.

    This is the one I have:

    http://www.fuelforadventure.com/hydrobak.html
    Living life like there's no tomorrow.

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  5. #20
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  6. #21
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    I love my Fuel Belt - no bouncing at all, very little sloshing, and the weight is distributed around your waist. Mine has 3 small fluid bottles (the equivalent of one large water bottle), and a gel flask. There are models that have more bottles, and some have a little pouch for keys and snacks and stuff. It was great for marathon training the past 2 years, although a model with more bottles would be good for really long runs (I try to plan my routes so I can refill at some point).

  7. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahine View Post

    So the key to this question is how hard was this person running? The only way to know the answer is to know what this person's lactate threshold is. This can be done with a VO2 max test, or it can be simulated with the help of a friend on a track test.
    I would guess that this person was running above their lactate threshold. When you do this you are expending more energy than you're body can produce with aerobic metabolism and you will produce lactic acid. Without flushing the lactate out after the race, there will be inflammation and painful tension in the muscles the following day. That's one theory anyway. The other theory is that the pain has nothing to do with lactic acid and that the pain and inflammation comes from small tears in the muscle fibres. I think it's a combination. So what can you do to ease it...
    I suspect you are right. I was running over my theoretical max HR for the last km, and approx. 95% of max for the last 2km. (I had estimated my max HR at 185 on the bike but I reached 193 during the race. I know that bike and running HR zones can be different.) You are also right when you say, this is a race, so it's probably ok to work at that zone and then expect "discomfort" the next day or so. I've only been running for 2-1/2 months so I would also expect that this will improve as I run more and build up endurance. Yeah, my age is a factor as well

    I'm glad to know it's ok to run that hard once in awhile. Most of the time, I am more reasonable but I do like to push myself sometimes.

    Thanks for the recovery suggestions. I will try all of it next time. Do you have any thoughts about stuff like sportleggs or e-caps etc?
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  8. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by chickwhorips View Post

    I have an older version of the Flashflo which was a massive improvement on trying to carry a bottle belt, I had similar problems to Alpine Rabbit. It carries about a litre of water easily (I've never managed to get more than that in it without wearing it over myself but that is probably my cack handed filling approach), carries keys, space for gels, small jacket etc. Once its set up its comfy and doesn't bounce really, the only draw back of mine is that its obviously designed for a man as its quite large and I am at the limit of being able to cinch it in, particularly when empty. I'm a UK size 12 (US 10 I think) so fairly average, if I was smaller I'd really struggle with it. The link that chickwhorips posted above looks more "girlie" so they may have made it more small woman suitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelownagirl View Post
    Do you have any thoughts about stuff like sportleggs or e-caps etc?
    I don't use them myself so I'm not sure. I do know a lot of people who do. i would say it's worth trying out.
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  10. #25
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    3.15 miles today during lunch in 34 minutes. I hate the treadmill.

    Tonight is packet pickup for the 5 mile race, and someone in my swim class told me that the course is really hilly. Great. Thanks, I reeeeally wanted to know that! Now for the next two days I'll freak out about imaginary hills!


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    Aaaaand another 10K group run.

    Boy, it was hilly today!

    There was one major and then at least 3 other ascents, one even a long flight of stairs. I was not talking anymore. I had to fight a bit but I held up.

    And it was rather warm and humid - I am getting used to it!
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  12. #27
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    50 min. this am before work. 55 degrees to start, 65 at end. I've decided to stop figuring out my distance on my slow runs because it depresses me. However I was happy that I got to a new part of the trail this morning that I'd never been to before since I had to keep going 25 min before I turned around. Also, I think my body might finally be getting used to this running thing. Usually at exactly 28 min. my legs stage a minor protest, they want to be done (coupled with some minor knee pain from problematic old surgery knee). However there was no such protest today, I ran right through. Looked down at my watch at 38 min, thinking the protest was late, but it never came. Yay!
    The best part about going up hills is riding back down!

  13. #28
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    I did my regular 3.4 mile run yesterday but took it pretty easy. I have my first ever race on Saturday (5k) and I'm trying to save my effort for that. Maybe I can get under 9 minutes per mile again!
    I'd rather be swimming...biking...running...and eating cheesecake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    So the water belt - is crrrr@p (so far anyway) - coupled with a full size bottle (only ones in our household) it kept bouncing, no matter how I pushed it down on my hips and the bottle bumping into my back bone. I ended up carrying the bottle.
    I have this belt. The bottle it comes with is cr@p but a standard 210z bottle fits well. If I keep the belt fairly tight it doesn't bounce, but it has a tendency to shift towards the right side of my back but this actually makes it easier to get the bottle out. If you're left handed you may be SOL. The pocket is big enough for ID, a small cell phone, and a small keyring.
    I'd rather be swimming...biking...running...and eating cheesecake...
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    2011 Trek Madone 5.5/Cobb V-Flow Max
    2007 Jamis Coda/Terry Liberator
    2011 Trek Mamba 29er

  15. #30
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    I was able to walk/run yesterday for 3.3 miles with no foot discomfort!!!!

    Only up to 45 sec run/ 45 sec walk, but I'm happy to be out!
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