Shifting from Fat loss to Weight loss?

[Nokomis]

I have some suggestions but they would be to change what you're doing and how you're doing it. I'm sure you don't want to do that because I know how good it feels when you finally get into a schedule but if you're interested, I'm more than happy to share other ideas of what you could do to continue strength training but modify the way in which you're doing it to help elicit a more aerobic type of lifting.

I'm using the body for life 12 week challenge / plan. I'm open to suggestions - the plan has helped me change my body composition, maintain regular exercize and better eating habits. I am trying to explore what to do next that will best compliment my cycling + fitness goals. I'm very interested in your suggestions.

gnat - I am very happy about my progress thus far! I'm still waiting for that pivot point to kick in where the extra muscle increases metabolism & my weight starts to drop I am now stronger & better able to push 160 lbs up hill, but i'd rather be pushing 140 up hill instead

RoadRaven - I rarely have white bread, the majority of my grain carbs are being supplied by brown rice or quinoa, or whole grain granola in small amounts.

If this helps, a sample eating plan (today):
Beverages - Black coffee, Water, water, water, and more water
Breakfast - 1/4c granola, 1/2c TJs fat free greek style yogurt, 1/4c blueberries
Snack - 1/2 Odwalla super protein
Lunch - grilled chicken breast (3oz), steamed broccoli/carrot/cauliflower, 1/2c brown rice
Snack - other 1/2 Odwalla super protein
Dinner - ~5oz jerk chicken, 3/4c quinoa w/ tomato & cucumber
Snack - 1/2c lowfat cottage cheese, 1/3c berries

[RoadRaven]

Nokomis... sounds like your diet is alright (though I'm no nutritionist)

The point, we were told, of droppng all bread is to eliminate gluten as much as possible from the diet, and the fat you "lose" is "internal" fat that accumulates around organs. I haven't researched this for medical back-up, but it is resulting in our weight loss.

But it sounds like you couldn't eliminate much more gluten (if you wanted to) from your diet anyways...

[equus123]

Okay, after much thought, here is an example workout schedule that will help maintain overall strength and help facilitate the introduction of more cycling or aerobic training for your goal cycling distance.

What I was thinking you could change is drop the number of days in the gym to twice per week, do your aerobic stuff (cycling or whatever) 3-4x per week, and have 1-2 days off per week. Also instead of having certain body parts sore the next day rather than others, I prefer to do a full-body workout each time I go in. Personally, I like the way it feels better. You can always give this a try and see how you take to it. If you prefer your current schedule - then by all means, do it!

Here's what an example week might be like. I've found that saying how much rest is needed between lifting days or rest days can be provided and then the athlete can integrate these into their own schedule and whatever works for them. I've found that "pre-built" schedules are never conducive for my schedule and they're hardly flexible either.

The following exercises I've done millions of times before. They're my favorite, they're excellent for their purpose, and they're compound exercises. Compound exercises are best because they incorporate 2 or more joints in the movement. This means it's a better workout, more muscles are recruited, it jacks up your heart rate, and you burn more calories. The other positive side of it is that you can do less exercises and less sets to get basically the same workout. Make sense?

**For the first 2 weeks, have a :60 (60 second) rest between sets and no rest between exercises - just go right to the next. Each week drop :05 so that after 7 weeks, you'll be at :30 rest between sets. This also helps the aerobic system and trains your body's recovery time. Other modifications of this workout if you choose to go past 7 weeks can be to pick a standard :45 rest between sets but increase the weight or you can do it all over again with more weight per exercise. The possibilities are endless and do whatever is fun or challenging for you.

**Everything should be 3 sets of 8-10 reps (3x8-10) unless otherwise noted. I say 8-10 reps because it depends on what works better for you. Sometimes the weight affects how many reps you can do so pick the weight accordingly.

DAY 1:

Inch Worms (2x10)
Dumbbell Lunges
Dumbbell or Barbell Bench
Chin/Pull Ups
Hanging Pikes or Captain's Chair (2x25)
Bent Over Dumbbell or Barbell Rows
Good Mornings (2x10)
Alternating Shoulder Press

DAY 2:

Dumbbell Squat Thrusts (2x10)
Split Squats
Dumbell Flies
Decline Dumbell Pullovers
Decline Situps (2x25)
Seated Rows
Back Extensions (2x10)
Dips

At first glance if you're familiar with these exercises you can see that you're working one part of the body and then something completely different. You'll also notice that the order is the same (warmup, quads, chest, lats, core, upper back/rear delts, low back, and then extra) and the two different exercises between the two days work the same muscles but in a slightly different way.

The only machine you'll use is to do the seated row. Everything else is dumbbells, a bar, or using a bench.

INCH WORM = warmup exercise; Stand with your feet shoulder width apart. You're going to put your hands on the ground and keeping your legs straight, walk your hands out as far as you can go and then back to your feet. This counts as 1. Then go right into the next one. An easy way to count is to alternate which hand goes first so you always know whether you're on an even or an odd number.

DB LUNGES = using dumbbells, you're going to stay stationary. Start with feet together, step out with one foot and bend both knees to 90 degrees. Touch your knee to the floor and push back to where you were standing. Then do the same with the other foot. The key is to go straight down towards the floor after you take the step forward.

HANGING PIKES = a pretty difficult exercise to do but if you're strong enough, do 'em! These are done with the help of something to hold onto that will let you hang a few inches above the ground and also allows a lot of clearance room. Get up and grab a bar or handles and hang perfectly straight. These are done by keeping your legs straight and with control, bring your legs up and touch your feet to your hands and lower back down. It works all sorts of muscles!

CAPTAIN'S CHAIR = the easier and safer alternative to pikes. These are done on the raised chair that supports your back and your arms like the top half of a chair. Get up into it, hold on, and let your legs hang straight down. Then do the same as the pike - with your legs straight and controlled, raise them up to hip level (parallel to the ground) and slowly lower then back down.

BENT OVER DB/BB ROWS = depending on your strength, you can use dumbbells or a 35 lb bar for these. Once you find the right weight (shouldn't be too much) then stand holding the bar with your hands in the pronated position (palms facing behind you). You're going to tilt over at about 35-45 degrees (or not more than 45 degrees) at your hips and let your arms hang down towards the ground. From here, you're going to pull the bar towards your chest (usually mid-nipple line is the standard) like doing an upsidedown bench press. Or if you're using dumbbells, do the same movement and placement. The key is to squeeze your shoulderblades back as if someone is pulling your elbows together behind you.

GOOD MORNINGS = if you have a bad back, don't do these. But if you're okay then this is a great hamstring and "posterior chain" exercise. The posterior chain refers to all of the muscles on the back half of your body that are posturial and similar to an erector set. This clearly applies to being on the bike! Use a light bar to start with (one of the ones with black padding all the way around it) because you won't need much weight at all for these. Start with the bar behind your head on the base of your neck or across the very top of your shoulders (where I do it). You can hold the bar close to your shoulders or farther out on the bar (doesn't matter). You're going to have a very slight bend in your knees - basically so they're not locked. Keep your back completely straight, bend at the hips until you're even with your hips (parellel to the ground). The key is to keeping the same tight back and curl your head backwards as you're leaning down so you can look straight ahead when you're at the lowest point of the movement. Your hamstrings will be tight the next 2 days if you're doing them correctly.

ALTERNATING SHOULDER PRESS = you can use one of the light, padded bars like for the good mornings. Start standing with the bar in front of you at shoulder height. You're going to lift the bar only an inch above your head and move the bar over top and backwards to finish shoulder height behind your head. And continuing in one motion, do the same over top of your head and finish in the front. This counts as 1. They really make your delts scream if you do it all as one continuous movement.

DB SQUAT THRUSTS = using a somewhat small dumbbells (8-15 lbs) but they need to have flat surfaces on the ends! (not round ones), this is another type of warmup exercise. Stand with the DB's hanging at your side. You're going to squat down until the dumbbells touch the floor. Without stopping, put all of your weight onto them as if your hands were directly on the floor and hop to shoot your feet out behind you - feet together and body straight and stiff (this is a pushup position). Then you're going to hop and pull your feet back under you and then stand up out of the squat. This is all one continuous movement. This counts as 1. It's fantastic for warming up the whole body and getting your heart rate up!

SPLIT SQUATS = fantastic single-leg exercise. Use dumbbells of a decent to moderate weight and find an empty flat bench. Stand with the bench a couple feet behind you. You're going to put the top of one foot on the bench so you're standing on one leg. Then you're going to drop straight down until your knee is at 90 degrees and then back up. These are single leg squats. You're going to do twice as many reps because you'll do one set on each leg and then switch and do the other - then take your rest between sets. The key is to not let your knee go forward past your toes if you look straight down.

DB FLIES = light dumbbells and a flat bench. Lay on the bench and hold your arms up over you with a slight bend at the elbow. Now swing your arms out to the sides until they're parallel to the ground with your palms facing up while holding the DB's and bring them back up and touch the DB's together at the top. The key is to control the movement and squeeze your back as your arms are going down and then your chest as you squeeze your arms back together above you.

DECLINE DB PULLOVERS = fun alternative to a lat pulldown (if you prefer to do them then go ahead). You'll need a decline bench (one where your knees and hips will be higher than your head) and light to decent dumbbells. Lay on the bench but have your arms straight and pointing straight up towards the ceiling (aka perpendicular to the ground). You can have a slight bend in the elbows and slowly lower your arms backwards towards your head until your arms are straight above your head (i.e. hands actually near the ground and arms pointing downward). Then pull your arms back up until they're perpendicular to the ground and pointing straight up towards the ceiling again. Keep your core tight and try doing this with your arms shoulder length apart or with the dumbbells together in the middle.

DECLINE SITUPS = using the same decline bench, find a comfortable degree of tilt that will allow you to do 2 sets of 20-25. These are great for your abs in front, your lower back, your hip flexors - your whole core.

SEATED ROWS = this is the only exercise you'll need a pulley machine for. It's the one where you sit upright and pull some kind of handle towards you from straight in front of you. Focus on keeping your back tight and straight and then rolling your shoulder blades and elbows together behind you when you're pulling the weight back towards you.

BACK EXTENSIONS = love this one. You'll need one of those little pieces of equipment angled at 45 degrees with a padded hip part and an angled foot platform. Feet should be shoulder length apart, I like to cross my arms in front of me. Start with your back and body straight (but you're actually fully tilted at the 45 degrees with the equipment). Very slowly bend at the hips until your back and head are pointing straight down towards the ground and then very slowly come back up until your back is straight. They generally don't recommend to over extend your back past straight. Focus on squeezing your lower back muscles as you finish the movement back to a straight body.

DIPS = fantastic shoulder and tricep workout. You can do these on a machine or if you're strong enough - unaided with your body weight! These are done by holding onto handles and holding yourself up straight above them. If you're on a machine then there will be a pad that you can rest your knees and legs on. You'll bend at the elbow until your shoulder comes down near your hands and then straighten yourself back up. Do these slowly.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeew that's enough for now, I'm spent. lol. Let me know if you have questions or need clarity on anything.

[teigyr]

Wow. Simply wow I am going to print that out to try. I can actually do most of those at the house!

It looks like some of these require flexibility. Since I need to work on that anyway, do you recommend any stretches to compliment this workout? I'm taking a pole dance class and my challenges are flexibility (to invert and do a lot of things you need flexibility) and ab strength. I was thinking about taking yoga but heck, would be much better to be at home! Not to mention, I tend to not have much time.

Thanks for all the work you put into that. Some of the moves I'm trying to figure out but I'll websearch them before I ask silly questions.

Jane

[Nokomis]

equus - you rock! wow, hope your hourly fee isn't too high, gonna owe you an arm & a leg

I'm familiar with most of these exercizes, and the new ones are a step or 2 beyond what I'm doing now, so I'm very excited to give them a go. I think I'm going to try to work some of these into my current plan just to get the muscles used to them. I'm on week 10 of 12 of my current plan so I'll finish it out before transitioning.

Your schedule looks great, and looks to fit in with where I want to go and the additional research I've been looking in to. Thanks a million I'll let you know how it goes!

[equus123]

You're welcome Thank you

re: Stretching = You could stretch more to wake up the muscles a bit. Personally, I think it's easier to just do stupid little stretches during the rest time between sets. You can do a bagillion things at once!

[Nokomis]

Okay - just started with Day 1. Felt great, and went much more quickly than I anticipated, think it's a shorter workout than I'd done previously.

One warning label needs inserted.. make sure your sports bra is Inch Worm capable. I almost flashed the boys at the gym