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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish View Post
    I do not want to start a firestorm here, but I am curious if anyone carries any weapons aside from mace or pepper spray?
    No, but my friend jokes around about carrying a handgun...kept in plain sight on the left hip, of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    No, but my friend jokes around about carrying a handgun...kept in plain sight on the left hip, of course!
    I keep teasing DH if these Ford F250s (the big trucks) keep running up on me I am getting a concealed handgun license!!! That might level the playing field.
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    I actually feel safer alone when there is noone around.
    I mean there is noone around, geddit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by margo49 View Post
    I actually feel safer alone when there is noone around.
    I mean there is noone around, geddit.
    EXACTLY...there is NO ONE around. You are running 25 with a tailwind, they are running 40 slam into you..........that's it........game over...sorry but I REFUSE to be that.
    If you can't leave Target, as (bless her heart) Kelsey Smith in BROAD DAYLIGHT what are we suppse to do??
    I am fortunate, living on a military base....I'm a "little" safer.....not much trust me..however, I will do whatever it takes, to ensure, safety and to be able to come back home to my HUSBAND and CHILD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenn View Post
    EXACTLY...there is NO ONE around. You are running 25 with a tailwind, they are running 40 slam into you..........that's it........game over...sorry but I REFUSE to be that.
    If you can't leave Target, as (bless her heart) Kelsey Smith in BROAD DAYLIGHT what are we suppse to do??
    I am fortunate, living on a military base....I'm a "little" safer.....not much trust me..however, I will do whatever it takes, to ensure, safety and to be able to come back home to my HUSBAND and CHILD!

    So what are you going to do Jenn, hole up in your house? You can't ensure anyone's safety, all you can do is manage your risk. As Mimi said a meteor could fall on your house.

    My advice stop focusing on the high profile risks, like Kelsey. Think about the real risks in your life - diet, exercise, smoke free environment, sunscreen, seatbelts...

    If you truly think violence is the biggest risk to you or your family, get a concealed weapons permit and be prepared to use the pistol to defend yourself.

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    one of my favorite quotes

    "those how would give up a little freedom for a little security deserve neither"
    Ben Franklin
    I agree with Veronica. There is no such thing as a "risk-Free" life. and the mainstream is very much "if it Bleeds, it leads". I didn't even learn about the Lady in KS until I saw discuss that. That's what I get for getting my news from the LA times and NPR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    So what are you going to do Jenn, hole up in your house? You can't ensure anyone's safety, all you can do is manage your risk. As Mimi said a meteor could fall on your house.

    My advice stop focusing on the high profile risks, like Kelsey. Think about the real risks in your life - diet, exercise, smoke free environment, sunscreen, seatbelts...

    If you truly think violence is the biggest risk to you or your family, get a concealed weapons permit and be prepared to use the pistol to defend yourself.

    V.
    Wow.....the anger.....Tell her parentts that, and I'll make sure my 16 month old is packing.What BS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenn View Post
    Wow.....the anger.....Tell her parentts that, and I'll make sure my 16 month old is packing.What BS....
    Who's anger? If you come on a forum and ask people's advice and opinions on something, you shouldn't call their replies "BS". Veronica's advice was valid, thoughtful and polite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    I keep teasing DH if these Ford F250s (the big trucks) keep running up on me I am getting a concealed handgun license!!! That might level the playing field.
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    All I can say is that this thread is making me really happy I live in the city. No matter where I go, hundreds of people are there also, and there is virtually zero possibility of being assaulted or even harrassed in any serious way. My fitness riding is in the park where you are going around in circles with a hundred other cyclists, joggers, and roller-bladers going around in circles. I feel so safe all the time. I walk my dog around the neighborhood at 11pm, and I run into others walking their dogs, couples coming home from dinner, etc., etc. I have never felt that I was isolated enough for anyone to get away with an assault.

    My sister in rural PA, and my mom in rural FLA, freak out that I ride the bike "alone" and walk the dog "alone". What they don't seem to understand is how much safer it is in the city than where they live. I'm visiting my mom right now, and I honestly couldn't imagine going off on a bike ride here. Too isolated by far...

    For those of you who do not feel safe... Follow your instincts, and be as prepared as possible. But, try not to let the fear keep you down. That's letting the bad guys win. If I had no choice but to live in a rural or quiet area, I would take self-defense classes and carry some kind of weapon handy. I carried mace in college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rij73 View Post
    All I can say is that this thread is making me really happy I live in the city.

    I'm visiting my mom right now, and I honestly couldn't imagine going off on a bike ride here. Too isolated by far...

    For those of you who do not feel safe... Follow your instincts, and be as prepared as possible. But, try not to let the fear keep you down. That's letting the bad guys win.
    We are all very different, aren't we!?! (As it should be.) I have lived in both very urban and very rural environments. I always feel safer in the rural settings, but the possibility of a threat exists in both. I have known people who have been both raped and killed in the urban environment. I have known people who have been the victims of home invasion crime in the rural setting.

    We're all different, and the urban threats make me more nervous. And, I know that I would not want to give up those incredible rides out in the country alone, when I stop and all I can hear is the wind, and all I can see is an eagle overhead, or an elk at a river.

    When I lived rurally, without electricity or phone (and no cell phone reception), I slept with the cabin secured, and myself in a loft. The only way up there was a hole in the floor of the loft. I kept a gun, used it regularly to stay fresh, and was fully prepared (I believe, at least...never having been put to the test) to use it on anyone who woke me up in the night by breaking through my doors, ignoring my warning yells, and sticking their head up through my hole in the floor. My brother thinks I'm nuts for not using the same philosophy by carrying a small handgun on the bike with me, not letting anyone get close enough to take it away and use it on me. We both know people who have been left alone in harrassment situations after revealing they were armed.

    I'm know I'm not ready for that on the bike, yet. I'm still not sure I could use it in the harder to read situations outside home defense. But, depending on circumstances changing in the future, I would consider it.
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

 

 

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