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  1. #1
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    There is a fantastic paved bike path right near me, it runs straight out a point w/ gorgeous views of the ocean on both sides. It was created (as I understand it) to keep the cyclists off the road that travels this point. It's become a MUT - I won't go near it in the summer time. The road has no shoulder and is 50mph speed but I'll ride that before I'll ride the MUT unless I'm super organized and get up and out by 6am.

    This is exactly why - way too dangerous for me (and everyone else) for me to be humming along dodging cycling and pedestrian obstacles and its so flat that speed is just too inviting.

  2. #2
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    road hazards

    Now that it's gotten warm and muggy - we get to watch for ....

    Alligators!

    Nothing quite like seeing an alligator sunning itself on the path. Now there's a road hazard to avoid at all costs
    Beth

  3. #3
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    More animals!!!

    I had a pack of dogs (five) on Saturday and then two snakes - both dead - on a 50 mile ride!!!! Love the photo Zen - one was black and the other for me was a copperhead!!!! Off topic - but as a kid I used to torment my mom and trick her into looking at pictures of snakes - she hates them!!!
    Debi

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    just goes to show that just cause people are riding bikes or even fully decked out (posers) on a bike doesn't mean that they understand the etiquette of riding.

    Watch the riding form and you can tell a lot about a rider. We have beach cruisers, dudes on a bike looking for a babe and do really stupid things to get girls' attention and girls with very few sq inches of fabric riding on bike looking for a dude ... to you name it. So best to figure them out before you get too close. And the best way is by looking at their riding style. inexperienced riders don't have a very good form and tend to weave so I give myself extra room when I get close.

    And fact of life, some guys just absolutely hate it when a girl passes by them and will just about do anything to pass you and including being hazard to you.

    sorry to hear about running an obstacle course.

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingcat View Post
    just goes to show that just cause people are riding bikes or even fully decked out (posers) on a bike doesn't mean that they understand the etiquette of riding.

    Watch the riding form and you can tell a lot about a rider. We have beach cruisers, dudes on a bike looking for a babe and do really stupid things to get girls' attention and girls with very few sq inches of fabric riding on bike looking for a dude ... to you name it. So best to figure them out before you get too close. And the best way is by looking at their riding style. inexperienced riders don't have a very good form and tend to weave so I give myself extra room when I get close.

    And fact of life, some guys just absolutely hate it when a girl passes by them and will just about do anything to pass you and including being hazard to you.

    sorry to hear about running an obstacle course.
    Thank you for responding to the main POINT in my post. We were by no means hot doggin' or flying around people or going fast near ANYONE. When it was open yea, we'd GO...but slow down coming up on traffic. I was talking about that guy that almost ran ME off the path, which by the way, smelled of alcohol when we passed, so I'm sure that had alot to do with it!!

  6. #6
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    Well, if it makes you feel any better... or at least makes you sound better... I go up to 24 mph on my bike path. It's very common for me to have a 18-19 mph average at the end of a ride.

    Mind you, I go slower on the parts where there isn't a lot of room... but otherwise I'm flying.

    With that said... it blows my mind how OBLIVIOUS people on the path can be. Anyone who has been on this path knows that cyclists are out there hauling butt... and trust me, I'm not one of the fast ones.

    If you (a walker/runnger) SEE and have cyclists fly by you at 20-25 mph, wouldn't you think to stay on the SIDE of the path and not walking down the middle... or walking in a group 3 across?

    I have also had cyclists run up my rear tire or get really close when they pass.

    If someone is close behind me, I will turn my head and tell them, "If I'm holding you up, feel free to go around." I do it nicely, but I let them know that I don't want to slow them down.

    With all of that said, I have learned that I can only ride this path once a week. Anymore more than that, and I get really frustrated with the people out there on the path.

    Sorry you had so many obstacles to dodge. Isn't it nuts how people think a path is so safe because there aren't any cars, and sometimes it's more dangerous. I am amazed at how they don't put on helmets when they should riding on a path!
    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in broadside thoroughly used-up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: WOW WHAT A RIDE!!!!"

  7. #7
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    We have a beautiful MUT called the Lakefront Path here in town. The north branch of it is so congested that it's miserable to ride on the weekends or weekday evenings.

    BF and I rode part of it Sat. Coming around a curve, a bunch of teens were hanging out, meandering, and taking up the entire path. I rang my little bell several times, I slowed down to a crawl, I called out "Watch out! Watch out!" No movement from any of them. Went around them on the grass, muttering, "Sheesh!" Then they acknowledged my presence by yelling at me, "You could at least say 'excuse me'!" Large sigh. Actually, I wanted to go back and....well. Ahem. I didn't. BF said, "honey, they didn't know you were there." Really? OK. Maybe. But I think I just need to stay off that part of the path. It makes me too mad.

    And don't even let me get started about rollerbladers talking on the phone!

    I am happy to say that the south branch of the path is lovely, and wide, and seldom congested. That's a place to really fly. If I'm doing a long ride, I'll usually take city streets for 7 miles to get to the south branch, and then get in the aerobars and go fast.
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  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmccasland View Post
    Now that it's gotten warm and muggy - we get to watch for ....

    Alligators!

    Nothing quite like seeing an alligator sunning itself on the path. Now there's a road hazard to avoid at all costs

    You're not kidding, are you.

    And might I add:
    Winter riding is much less about badassery and much more about bundle-uppery. - malkin

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  9. #9
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    bmccasland, I've seen those sights before, especially the big boys that take up most of the path. Those gators can get pretty nasty this time of year, so please be careful. There's 2 that hang out on the econ (big stream) that runs next to the path and in the afternoon they just sit there sunbathing. The boy is just huge, probably 8ft and the lady is a tad smaller. I leave them be and they leave me alone to, but I've seen some dumb guys try to walk up to them and mess with them. Yeah, culling of the herd if I've ever seen it.
    I also get to see rabits, raccoons, tons of snakes, soft shells turtles going to the water and my favorites, the gopher tortoises. They may be tortoises, but they can move when they need to . Sometimes, I just stop to look at these creatures, just too cool.

  10. #10
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    I'm guessing MUTs are what are called "bike and pedestrian paths" in Norway, which means cyclists are expected to use them instead of the road, and are also expected to share them with Grandma in a wheelchair, your neighbour walking 5 dogs, and gaggles of oblivious teenage girls... *sigh*

    Now kids, dogs and elderly people - I give them lots of slack. They either don't know any better, or grew up in a time when things just went slower.
    And no, I don't use these trails for any serious training. (Well, I don't actually DO any serious training )

    But I really really wish sometimes that we could have a set of "smart pedestrian"-rules, to go with the "friendly cyclist rules", like: Remember there are people out here trying to get from A to B. Try to stay somewhat to one side. Glance behind you before you cross the path. And please don't walk your dog on one side of the path, if you're going to be on the other side... It seems some people feel that paths like these are like strolling around inside a mall and seem shocked at somebody passing them at anything over stroll speed. Since I started biking regularly I'm never startled by other cyclists when I'm on foot. It just depends on what you expect.

    But of course what we REALLY want are dedicated bike paths, right?
    Winter riding is much less about badassery and much more about bundle-uppery. - malkin

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  11. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by lph View Post
    But of course what we REALLY want are dedicated bike paths, right?
    Yes, Yes, YES!
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  12. #12
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    One memorable ride I was just about home at dusk and ran over a rattlesnake. I was about over it before I saw it on the dirt-gravel road. The snake was still there in the road curled and hissing when my FIL came to kill it with a hoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosc View Post
    One memorable ride I was just about home at dusk and ran over a rattlesnake. I was about over it before I saw it on the dirt-gravel road. The snake was still there in the road curled and hissing when my FIL came to kill it with a hoe.
    Why?
    I wasn't a threat to anyone
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  14. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosc View Post
    One memorable ride I was just about home at dusk and ran over a rattlesnake. I was about over it before I saw it on the dirt-gravel road. The snake was still there in the road curled and hissing when my FIL came to kill it with a hoe.

    Poor snake I like Rattlesnakes. They're lovely animals who at least give you warning to back away from them. One of our reptile shops here has a Venomous section. They have a Diamond Back Rattlesnake in there. He's a big lad but seldom rattles his tail as he's used to people. They also have several Cobras, Black Mambas, Green Mambas, a Gaboon Viper a Puff Adder...and an 8 inch long venomous centipede. I love the snakes but not so keen on the centipede. I've been very lucky in being able to see the snakes close up and being only 12 inches from a Cobra even though he's in his viv and behind glass is quite awesome.

    Here he is in a very striking pose

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    [QUOTE=Python;209177]Poor snake I like Rattlesnakes. They're lovely animals who at least give you warning to back away from them. One of our reptile shops here has a Venomous section. They have a Diamond Back Rattlesnake in there. He's a big lad but seldom rattles his tail as he's used to people. They also have several Cobras, Black Mambas, Green Mambas, a Gaboon Viper a Puff Adder...and an 8 inch long venomous centipede. I love the snakes but not so keen on the centipede. I've been very lucky in being able to see the snakes close up and being only 12 inches from a Cobra even though he's in his viv and behind glass is quite awesome.

    I might have to come visit you and the snakes Python...I love snakes too. Talked to a guy at work who has a pet diamondback rattler. Had her since she was a baby. She was cute...Sorry, off topic a little.

    One of the bike paths in Denver has a 15 mph limit because of complaints. I hear the police were actually out there radaring people and giving tickets. I know I have better things to do then that! I haven't been to this park but the local news did a story on it last summer.

 

 

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