Landis Hearing

[teigyr]

missymaya - I agree with you. I think there are differences, also, between mens and womens sports. We love going to WNBA games because there is a different atmosphere, it isn't all showboating, and the women seem to have a different view on the whole thing.

I don't know enough about mens vs. womens cycling to make an educated statement on it but I wonder because it is "less popular", there is less pressure? Also, I am sure the money/sponsorship isn't equal between the genders. (I know it is popular and that there is pressure, of course, but the mens gets more publicity.)

Maybe if we had true equality then the women would feel as compelled as the men to cheat but for now, it works.

One last thought that I hope isn't true, could it be that in the high-ranking womens cycling community that there is less scrutiny than what is with the men? ie maybe it does happen but it isn't as much of a witch hunt?

[Fredwina]

I Think it several things:
1. Not the Boy's club- witness TE vs. the "other" cycling board
2. Less money involved, which means that the riders and teams can't afford to buy the "products" needed, plus the folks involved are more likely doing it for the love of the sport.
They are some women doper - look up Genevieve Jeanson, but she the only one I know of.

[smilingcat]

I've been trying to stay away from this boo ha ha with Floyd, doping, LeMond, the phone call etc. cause the whole thing really stinks. And I mean everything and everyone.

Someone pointed out that USADA (whatever the the acronym) gets part of its funding from the govt. so there is a temptation to hang someone dry to say "see-- see, we need money for enforcement..." Then what's LeMond doing in the pic? What does he have to contribute to this sordid/sorry affair. He's not part of the French lab, he's not part of Landis camp nor associated closely with big teams...

I wish this whole thing was just a bad nightmare and I wish we all get back to our riding for the love of sport.
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now boys vs womens cycling... Like eden said on another thread why spend hundreds of $$$ on things like EPO so you can pick up a preems worth $10.00 at a crit. Just doesn't really makes any sense to me... But on the mens circuit winning is big $$$ where it pays.

The other thing I've noticed too is that, well atleast for me, winning isn't everything and winning by cheaing is just so defeating emotionally. Such a win seems so hollow. But to a lot of men, winning is at any cost. And many of them just don't seem to care if it means to cheat a little or cheat a lot.

Again I just wish everyone on this monkey business stop pounding their chest and put away their over inflated egos and get to the business of reality. Tell the truth, admit that you've made mistakes in handling of the samples and truth may never be known about Mr. Landis use of drugs and be done with it. And for Mr. Landis to come clean with some explanation of some odd comments made about Mr. Le Monde

The whole thing is such a circus now, I'll abstain from making any judgement.

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Please don't get me wrong when I mention about hollow win, that I have had experience of winning with drugs. For the record, I hate drugs even painkillers. I hate the out of control feel of many of these drugs.

smilingcat

[equus123]

One last thought that I hope isn't true, could it be that in the high-ranking womens cycling community that there is less scrutiny than what is with the men? ie maybe it does happen but it isn't as much of a witch hunt?

yeah...you hope they don't care as much because its "women's" sports and the "who cares about that" kind of attitude.

[teigyr]

I personally love womens sports because I think more people do it for the love of the sport instead of the money. Maybe that is where the corruption is in mens sports?

[missymaya]

There is a woman track cyclist that was caught doping, but I can't remember her name for the life of me.

[ridethewind]

There is a woman track cyclist that was caught doping, but I can't remember her name for the life of me.

You may be thinking of Tammy Thomas.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11333.0.html

[missymaya]

Thanks ridethewind, that's exactly who I was thinking of.