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  1. #1
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    Good point, Karen, re: "can" and "will." That did cross my mind when I wrote the post.

    As for free speech, I believe the "don't share" message is also protected by free speech. But I also think it's highly likely that it's not a message cafepress wants to support, which is what we can all hope for!

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    Good point, Karen, re: "can" and "will." That did cross my mind when I wrote the post.

    As for free speech, I believe the "don't share" message is also protected by free speech. But I also think it's highly likely that it's not a message cafepress wants to support, which is what we can all hope for!
    If the message stopped at "I don't share the road" I agree yes it would be protected speech, (and I think cafe press may leave the stickers and merchandise that says only this) but when the person actually provoked striking a cyclist with a car his/her speech ceased to be protected.

    (one person on the Cascade board did suggest they'd like some of the ones that just say I don't share the road to put on certain people's cars as a warning lable for the rest of us......)
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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    The products are no longer available. Images are still there, but you can't get 'em to wear.

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    I looked at the link this morning, was the first chance I had. I have to say that even after hearing the description here, I was shocked. Part of me wanted to see if I could find out who the individual is who is selling them just so I could contact him/her directly.

    I really love the power that is generated on this site and I am so glad that it made a difference

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    Not just this site, Jane, but also Bike Journal, Cascade bike club and some others too!
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
    for six tanks of gas you could have bought a bike.

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    Looks like it is gone entirely now!
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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    well maybe not.... Now if I go back and look there it is again - I can't help but wonder if the person keeps reposting it or if it is Cafe Press wobbling about whether or not it can be sold??
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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    I noticed it too but if you try to order, you can't. The ones without the picture, you can order but the ones wih picture, have been removed from "order" page.

    Shawn

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    Congrats to mimi on a job well done.

    If I'm not mistaken, she was the first to spot it, then the jungle drums spread the word, then the community-at-large roared!

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

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    no, it wasn't me. Read the first post on this thread!
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
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    Oh, my mistake.

    TELEGIRL!!!

    Thanks to Telegirl for bringing this to everyone's attention.

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

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    ALRIGHT!!! thanks Telegirl for bringing this to our attention... I know I got emails from all my cycling friends/clubs/and the SD Bicycle Coalition and everyone emailed CafePress! One even sent an email to the governor (not a cyclist but certainly an athlete!)

    I'm glad to see they are not selling that nonsense any longer!
    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".

 

 

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