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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    I hate them too, but how different are they from "My kid can beat up your honor student" bumper stickers? When it comes to promoting violence, I mean.

    I looked all over cafepress for a sticker that says "share the road/it's the law" but didn't find one. That's what I'd like on my car -- but I really do want the "it's the law" part.

    In the meantime, I ordered the pink iPedal sticker!

    http://www.cafepress.com/buy/3757192...t_/pg_/c_/fpt_
    The "My kid can beat up your honor student" stickers are bad too. BTW, do a search on cafepress for "share the road"--I think they had some things with the message you describe, although they may have been just t-shirts.
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    I have done a giant bellyflop onto this bandwagon! I also sent an email to them. What a disgusting thing to have available on a website - right alongside the "Share the Road" items nonetheless.

    Don't we have enough butt-heads to deal with on the roads without giving them a written permission of sorts to be jerks?!
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    I think there's a difference between "can" and "don't". The difference is intention. The honor student bumper sticker says (my kid) "can". The other one says (I) "will".

    I think the honor student bumper sticker is horrible, but it doesn't promise violence--just states that a possibility exists. The "don't share" bumper sticker is a statement of intent, and does promise violence.

    Therefore, I think one is acceptable as free speech, and the other is not, in my opinion.

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    Good point, Karen, re: "can" and "will." That did cross my mind when I wrote the post.

    As for free speech, I believe the "don't share" message is also protected by free speech. But I also think it's highly likely that it's not a message cafepress wants to support, which is what we can all hope for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    Good point, Karen, re: "can" and "will." That did cross my mind when I wrote the post.

    As for free speech, I believe the "don't share" message is also protected by free speech. But I also think it's highly likely that it's not a message cafepress wants to support, which is what we can all hope for!
    If the message stopped at "I don't share the road" I agree yes it would be protected speech, (and I think cafe press may leave the stickers and merchandise that says only this) but when the person actually provoked striking a cyclist with a car his/her speech ceased to be protected.

    (one person on the Cascade board did suggest they'd like some of the ones that just say I don't share the road to put on certain people's cars as a warning lable for the rest of us......)
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    The products are no longer available. Images are still there, but you can't get 'em to wear.

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    I looked at the link this morning, was the first chance I had. I have to say that even after hearing the description here, I was shocked. Part of me wanted to see if I could find out who the individual is who is selling them just so I could contact him/her directly.

    I really love the power that is generated on this site and I am so glad that it made a difference

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    Looks like it is gone entirely now!
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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    Congrats to mimi on a job well done.

    If I'm not mistaken, she was the first to spot it, then the jungle drums spread the word, then the community-at-large roared!

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

 

 

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