Promoting Violence Against Cyclists

[mimitabby]

Yes, SK,
that has been a subject of more than 1 expose' done by my local newspaper.
charity fund raisers that mostly make money for the raisers.

I find it interesting that this is cafepress, not even a year ago, some doof was selling teeshirts that advertising killing cats. I complained about that one too.

[teigyr]

I am so mixed on this. Yes, it is horribly irresponsible and is morally horrible. I also know that the law protects things like this. The only reason something like this exists, is because there is a profit in it. THAT is truly where the problem is. Somebody actually buys this &^*$. The sad thing, beyond the fact that somebody is idiot enough to be entertained by it, is that someone in their formative years might be affected by it.

I think bj should keep Mimi's post. Yeah, there are younger people there but to censor is wrong and they will see far worse things. At least by seeing it there and talking about it, they will learn what they're up against as they become adults.

I will e-mail Cafepress when I get home. I didn't try to access it but I'm at work and the censorship is strong

I can't help but wonder why Cafepress seems to think this is an acceptible crime. I can't wait to see the limited edition Pedophelia shirt.

[mimitabby]

I think bj should keep Mimi's post. Yeah, there are younger people there but to censor is wrong and they will see far worse things. At least by seeing it there and talking about it, they will learn what they're up against as they become adults.

I reposted at bj and then the senior admin guy changed it in a way that was pleasing to him and still got the point across, which was all i really wanted to do. So it's a viable thread.

[Thistle]

i have emailed them a complaint as well. i hope more people do too.

[Flybye]

Just got done reading everyone's posts. I can't believe it. Man, what some people consider funny just isn't. I was wondering if there is one of you out there with a little more time on your hands tonight than myself (DD has her end of year dance recital and I must get her all foofed up and fed for the big woo-ha) and can let the folks on cyclingforums.com know about this as well. They can also contact cafepress. I will send cafepress a complaint Saturday or sooner if I can swing it. Thanks!!

[Eden]

I emailed a complaint and posted up on the Cascade forum (our local club) for other people to complain as well.
I'm not so sure that it is free speech. It does incite violence!

[Zen]

I am so mixed on this. ...Yes, it is horribly irresponsible and is morally horrible. I also know that the law protects things like this... I can't wait to see the limited edition Pedophelia shirt.

NO the law DOES NOT protect things like this, there are limits to free speech as referenced in my earlier post ( I do, however, support the "bong hits for Jesus" student)

This was the response I received from Cafepress. Sounds promising, we'll see.

Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!

As you may know, CafePress.com provides an automated service to a rich and vibrant community of international users. Unfortunately, because our service is automated, sometimes content that is not consistent with our Content Usage Policy is posted on CafePress.com. We appreciate that you have brought this content to our attention and we will take appropriate action.


Your ticket code is LTK30041906031X. Please use this code in any further communication.



Best Regards,

Jessica S.
Content Usage Associate
(650) 655-3104 (O)
(650) 240-0260 (F)

[mimitabby]

I emailed a complaint and posted up on the Cascade forum (our local club) for other people to complain as well.
I'm not so sure that it is free speech. It does incite violence!

happy 1000 posts EDEN!
(and good idea to post on Cascade. that's BIG!)

[Eden]

I know that some of the folks on the Cascade board keep up with what's being posted, so maybe they will see it and contact Cafe Press too!

[Fredwina]

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/share%2...Box/copt_/y_14

[Jolt]

I just posted the link under "General Cycling Discussion" on www.bikeforums.net.

[Jolt]

I also just sent them the following message:

I am writing to let you know that I do not find any humor in the t-shirts etc. for sale on this site that say "I don't share the road" and/or show a picture of a car hitting a bicycle. As a cyclist who rides on the roads (which is where bicycles belong--not on the sidewalks), I am disturbed that someone would have this type of attitude and sell merchandise that is intended to incite such violence. Free speech is one thing, but encouraging people to injure others and flaunting one's (supposed) willingness to do so is crossing the line. Thank you for your concern.

[bikerchick68]

I sent an email to CafePress as well...

then I sent it to the San Diego Bicycle Coalition and every cyclist and bike club I know of here...

thanks for bringing this to our attention... unbelievable. Every single commute I ride by the memorial for Capt. Klokow hit and killed on Kearney Villa Rd last year... they put a ghost bike up.

nothing remotely amusing about it.

[Eden]

I put a post up on Cycling Forums as well - though they are a fairly crude bunch so many of them may find it to be funny.... but it is another world wide cycling site so hopefully the more reasonable members will quietly send protests to cafe press.....
(unfortunately that forum these days seems to have degenerated into a lot of name calling over who believes whom as far as doping scandals goes..... they are getting downright nasty to one another and not posting to much useful info lately)

[Batbike]

i got a response with a reference #, saying they respond in order of emails received, so we will see what happens.

everybody send!!!