Promoting Violence Against Cyclists

[mimitabby]

bj is highly monitored. they removed my post!!

i'll try again!!

[missymaya]

That's just shocking! I can't email the company due to the fact that I'm on an office computer and it won't let me do certain things (darn) but I can spread the word. There was a privately owned car company that had a one day promotion and the advertising was directly aimed at violence against women.. ON DOMESTIC ABUSE AWARENESS DAY!!! Umm, What!!! Fortunately, there was enough complaints that the news got involved and well, let's say they didn't get much business and haven't since. Maybe this will do the same.
I wonder why bj pulled your thread mimitabby. I hope people are aware of this as to promote against the ignorance!

[SadieKate]

Bikejournal maintains standards and does not allow links to objectionable material. I imagine that this was the reason it was removed, even though your stated cause was pro-cycling.

I'm curious if this is Sean's reasoning.

[mimitabby]

it's because there was a reference to manure in my post. I have been censored there for using the word hell as in a destination, not a curse.

letter from the admin:
Dear mimitabby,

I had to delete your thread pointing to the t-shirt site, as it contains profanity in at least its images. This is against the family friendly forum rules.

I find the t-shirt as distasteful as you do, but we don't really want the kids that hang out in BJ seeing that, do we?

If you have any issues with my deleting of the thread, please reply to this email. The reply will go to slantz instead of me and he can make a final call.

Thanks for your understanding

[li10up]

I emailed a complaint also. Hope it helps. There's no place in the world for that kind of garbage if you ask me.

[SadieKate]

I think it is interesting that anyone can provide product through CafePress but it isn't readily apparent who benefits.

I suspect a lot of the products that supposedly support a charitable cause don't actually produce any funds for that charitable cause.

[mimitabby]

Yes, SK,
that has been a subject of more than 1 expose' done by my local newspaper.
charity fund raisers that mostly make money for the raisers.

I find it interesting that this is cafepress, not even a year ago, some doof was selling teeshirts that advertising killing cats. I complained about that one too.

[Batbike]

i got a response with a reference #, saying they respond in order of emails received, so we will see what happens.

everybody send!!!

[teigyr]

I am so mixed on this. Yes, it is horribly irresponsible and is morally horrible. I also know that the law protects things like this. The only reason something like this exists, is because there is a profit in it. THAT is truly where the problem is. Somebody actually buys this &^*$. The sad thing, beyond the fact that somebody is idiot enough to be entertained by it, is that someone in their formative years might be affected by it.

I think bj should keep Mimi's post. Yeah, there are younger people there but to censor is wrong and they will see far worse things. At least by seeing it there and talking about it, they will learn what they're up against as they become adults.

I will e-mail Cafepress when I get home. I didn't try to access it but I'm at work and the censorship is strong

I can't help but wonder why Cafepress seems to think this is an acceptible crime. I can't wait to see the limited edition Pedophelia shirt.

[mimitabby]

I think bj should keep Mimi's post. Yeah, there are younger people there but to censor is wrong and they will see far worse things. At least by seeing it there and talking about it, they will learn what they're up against as they become adults.

I reposted at bj and then the senior admin guy changed it in a way that was pleasing to him and still got the point across, which was all i really wanted to do. So it's a viable thread.

[Zen]

I am so mixed on this. ...Yes, it is horribly irresponsible and is morally horrible. I also know that the law protects things like this... I can't wait to see the limited edition Pedophelia shirt.

NO the law DOES NOT protect things like this, there are limits to free speech as referenced in my earlier post ( I do, however, support the "bong hits for Jesus" student)

This was the response I received from Cafepress. Sounds promising, we'll see.

Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!

As you may know, CafePress.com provides an automated service to a rich and vibrant community of international users. Unfortunately, because our service is automated, sometimes content that is not consistent with our Content Usage Policy is posted on CafePress.com. We appreciate that you have brought this content to our attention and we will take appropriate action.


Your ticket code is LTK30041906031X. Please use this code in any further communication.



Best Regards,

Jessica S.
Content Usage Associate
(650) 655-3104 (O)
(650) 240-0260 (F)

[Thistle]

i have emailed them a complaint as well. i hope more people do too.

[Eden]

I emailed a complaint and posted up on the Cascade forum (our local club) for other people to complain as well.
I'm not so sure that it is free speech. It does incite violence!

[mimitabby]

I emailed a complaint and posted up on the Cascade forum (our local club) for other people to complain as well.
I'm not so sure that it is free speech. It does incite violence!

happy 1000 posts EDEN!
(and good idea to post on Cascade. that's BIG!)

[Python]

Thought it had been withdrawn as the first link doesn't work. Unfortunately, the second does. These T-shirts are disgusting.