What do you think...should I give this group ride a try?

[Jolt]

Well, I called the shop and asked for more info. They said the speed is about 14 mph and they "wait up for everyone", and that I should be fine as long as I do these kinds of distances "regularly". I wouldn't say "regularly", but I did do 16 or 17 miles this past Sunday and was fine, and have had days where I've done about 12 miles total while running errands, and I think my usual average speed is about 12 mph but it's hard to say because there are a lot of stoplights/intersections holding me up sometimes and that throws off the average. So it sounds do-able (I hope--my concern is with the speed) and if the weather looks good this Monday night I may show up. If so, I'll be sure to post a ride report!

[Geonz]

Oh, and editing again after reading your post about being passed: that guy may be doing a "low-key" ride (but wiht a little sprint because they ... ahem, we ...*do* that to pass people... bet you dollars to donuts he slowed down right after be blew by you). YES, the bike and especially the underinflated 38 tires make a HUGE difference.

When I switched from 35 to 28 tires, it was an instant 2 mph.

14 mph is pretty fast to do on a hybrid with 38 tires. THe other little piece of reality is that usually (not always) if somebody says they go 14... well, they do. Except whenthey're going 15 or 17. And ... the stark reality is they tend to say "you'll be fine," because it's really hard to tell somebody "oh, I don't think you'll be able to keep up with us."
- and did the person you were talking to know the bike you are riding?
"Low Key" is a totally, totally relative term.
I have years of experience being an I-can-go-the-distance hybrid rider, but could not keep up speed wise with the guys on the road bikes - and that was with 32's and 28, not 38s. I ended up forming my own group... and getting a lot stronger on my own, and then getting a much lighter, faster hybrid (which is wonderful because it still looks like a hybrid but I *can* average 17 or 18 on it).
I would try to find a way to inconspicuously size up their group before making an appearance. If they look like those guys in the Hot Mail thread, especially with the fancy gear, then the odds are it'll be an uneven match. THey'll prob'ly wait up for you (but not necessarily). And... sometimes the "12 mile" trip part is bogus too - especially a show & go because by definition there are no rules.
On the third hand, though... if they're like my buddies in Richmond... not only will they ride with you at your speed, they will do it so smoothly- you won't ever be at the end - that you will not even realize they usually go faster until later. It really all depends who's out there.

[Jolt]

Oh, and editing again after reading your post about being passed: that guy may be doing a "low-key" ride (but wiht a little sprint because they ... ahem, we ...*do* that to pass people... bet you dollars to donuts he slowed down right after be blew by you). YES, the bike and especially the underinflated 38 tires make a HUGE difference.

When I switched from 35 to 28 tires, it was an instant 2 mph.

14 mph is pretty fast to do on a hybrid with 38 tires. THe other little piece of reality is that usually (not always) if somebody says they go 14... well, they do. Except whenthey're going 15 or 17. And ... the stark reality is they tend to say "you'll be fine," because it's really hard to tell somebody "oh, I don't think you'll be able to keep up with us."
- and did the person you were talking to know the bike you are riding?
"Low Key" is a totally, totally relative term.
I have years of experience being an I-can-go-the-distance hybrid rider, but could not keep up speed wise with the guys on the road bikes - and that was with 32's and 28, not 38s. I ended up forming my own group... and getting a lot stronger on my own, and then getting a much lighter, faster hybrid (which is wonderful because it still looks like a hybrid but I *can* average 17 or 18 on it).
I would try to find a way to inconspicuously size up their group before making an appearance. If they look like those guys in the Hot Mail thread, especially with the fancy gear, then the odds are it'll be an uneven match. THey'll prob'ly wait up for you (but not necessarily). And... sometimes the "12 mile" trip part is bogus too - especially a show & go because by definition there are no rules.
On the third hand, though... if they're like my buddies in Richmond... not only will they ride with you at your speed, they will do it so smoothly- you won't ever be at the end - that you will not even realize they usually go faster until later. It really all depends who's out there.

Sounds like maybe this is a bad idea. Maybe I should find out their route and try to "accidentally" meet up with them and see what the group looks like. They do say that all skill levels and all types of bikes are welcome, and that most riders will be on road bikes or hybrids, but maybe the other hybrids are lighter and don't have such big tires. I've thought about looking into switching to 32's or whatever I can still put on the rims I have, but I'm not sure how smart that is with the crap roads I often ride on.

EDIT: Geonz, I noticed you have a Giant Nutra. That's the bike I have (but mine's a small WSD version). Is that the one you always had trouble keeping up on? As for the person I talked to knowing the bike I am riding, I am not sure. I have been in that shop with it before so some of the guys have seen me with it, but I doubt they knew who I was from the phone conversation to know what bike I was talking about.