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    I take daily B12 for other reasons. I buy "Source Naturals" methylcobalamine, which is vegetarian and hypoallergenic. No "yeast, dairy, egg, gluten, corn, soy or wheat." And they taste ok.

    If you can find the book "How it all Vegan", check it out. Fun book. I've not read the second vegan book these women wrote, but I'm betting it's a fun one, too.
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    Not espousing one diet over another, but....

    I have a friend who was an ovo/lacto/pesco vegetarian. Carefully ate organics, "free range" and the like. She still got breast cancer.
    You can be as careful about your diet as you like, but sometimes there's no escaping genetics.

    Vegetarian doesn't necessarily equal "healthful." French fries and Fritos are vegetarian -- doesn't make them healthful.

    Humans throughout history have been omnivores. If you can make the effort, and eat a varied, healthful diet that eliminates animal products, more power to you.
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    French fries aren't healthful!?!?!

    (mmmm, french fries and mayo...)
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    I have been a vegetarian since I was a child - just refused to eat meat because I didn't like the texture.

    I can honestly say it is so much easier to be a vegetarian now than it was even 5 years ago. There are great meat substitutes that can be found in regular grocery stores or a local health food store. And restaurants willingly change meat based dishes to a vegetarian option at requests, when they never would in the past (my fave is Olive Garden's Chicken Giradino (sp?) - no chicken, double veggies - yummy!)

    I would just recommend really reading labels and determining the nutritional value of the food. As a vegetarian its essential to look for protein and iron - especially if you are not using tofu, soy and other meat substitues or if you are going vegan. For example - the Barilla Pasta + with protein and iron is more expensive than their regular pasta but its worth it for the nutrients. Take multi-vitamins but most of your vitamins and nutrients still need to come from solid food.

    Good luck and enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnottedYet View Post
    French fries aren't healthful!?!?!

    (mmmm, french fries and mayo...)
    Umm..lets see - French Fries are made from potatoes and potatoes are a vegetable...so they must count towards my veggies for the day - thereby being a healthy food!

    If I dip them in ketchup, can I count that as a fruit?
    Sigh - fries are a weakness. Of course I don't dip in ketchup. I love chocolate shakes. Yumm..sweet and salty.

    Doh - now I am craving fries and a shake

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    I am an omnivore. I always will be. However, I know that humans can do well on a vegetarian diet, but it is even more critical to pay attention to nutrition because the western diet of convenience foods sort of precludes good nutrition.

    So, it's harder, takes more thought and planning. I know you guys are joking about french fries, but i have known some vegetarians who took a bad diet with meat and cut the meat out. and french fries apparently are a large part of that kind of diet, coupled with soft drinks.

    As I stated in the beginning, I am an omnivore. I believe that humans evolved to where they are by their incredible flexibility. If you don't count cockroaches, there isn't a single other animal on the planet that eats (and thrives on) a more diverse diet.
    So who am I to eschew tasty nutritious animal proteins? gnamgnam gnam.
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    Interesting article on this topic:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstru...tarianism.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelem View Post
    Very odd, point by point The China Study counters every single argument made in that article. Makes it hard for us lay people to know who's right.

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    Thanks so much for the input!! For the record, genetics can certainly take over no matter what, unfortunately. For instance, someone wrote they have less grey hair, but I'm 27 and apparently take after my grandfather, who also went grey pretty fast. I just hope that the breast cancer my uncle has and my mom had won't come finding me...oh and the colon cancer of said grandfather.

    I'm suspicious of multi-vitamins...are there any that dissolve in a drink, like water, as opposed to swallowing the pill? I've heard studies that proved they didn't dissolve, hence the term, "All you have now is expensive urine."

    What about protein shakes with vitamins? I'm trying to cut back on milk products (never digested well anyway)...I bought some vanilla soy milk but have yet to try it. I'll let you all know

    I also want to warn veggies about over-consumption of the wrong foods. I hate it when a vegan or a vegetarian would point out the dangers of my burger while they scarfed down fries and were about 40 lb.s overweight. I suppose nowadays is IS easier, with pastas having multigrain and using whole wheat and stuff.

    So these books you all recommend...they have break-downs of what foods to include in your diet in order to receive the right nutrients? I'm so excited to read!!

 

 

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