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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triskeliongirl View Post

    Another interesting thing my daughter has told me as a young adult. When she went off to college, she was surprised to find out how atypical our family is, in these sense that we have great relationships with each other, we are still married after 23 years, etc. Most of the young women she meets have poor relationships with their parents, their parents have poor relationships with each other, etc. I think taking care of ourselves in terms of our health, doing serious work that we love, etc. contribute to both the physical and mental health of our family.
    You are so wise. Your family sounds like mine - I hope, projecting forward 5 years, we remain as together as you guys. Wish me luck!

  2. #2
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    I missed Triskeliongirl's second post. Pumping at my workplace is not an inviting prospect; the few people who have attempted it have given it up in short order. And, to be honest, I'm not that dedicated. That is the breaking point I see for a lot of working mothers: demanding job, demanding hours, baby in daycare ... but it's pumping three times a day that kills them. If I couldn't work during that time I'd have to work longer hours to make it up, and I am just not willing to do that.

    We have family daycare available but it would not work if I keep my regular job, because I have to be there every day for a certain number of hours. Working at home I can make the same amount of money (factoring in self-employment taxes, COBRA payments, retirement contributions, and the few business expenses you incur in my particular line of work) with 25 billable hours per week, which I can do with a couple of days of grandparent care and some trading off with my husband. If I go back to work, it has to be full-time (part-time and flex-time aren't options, and I have to be there after five p.m. fairly often which also makes daycare difficult), and it's at least double what I need to do at home.

    So it's kind of a no-brainer. Especially since I left out the fact that the administrative part of my job -- the part I'm going to be walking away from entirely -- is boring and maddening and makes me think about quitting at least once a day.

    And that's where balance comes in, and why I liked Triskeliongirl's first post so much. I don't want my daughter to think that she has to give up anything else she wants in life if she decided to have a child, but I also don't want her to think that a working life needs to be joyless and crushing and all-or-nothing.

  3. #3
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    I agree soooo much with Trisk's post. My husband did stay home with son #1 until he was eight months old. Other things in our lives worked out so he could and it really relieved stress for me about going back to work after 6 weeks. He was a colicky baby and I swear, I can still see myself getting into the car the first day i went back and going "Phew..." I mean, I know what I was wearing, after almost 25 years! I also think that sometimes I am the only one who has a husband like mine. Maybe I was lucky that I am a teacher and I do get home earlier than most people, so I could drive them to activities, but there were still a lot of stresses.
    Both of my sons are very clear that they need to marry "women who can contribute to the family income." The oldest is dating someone who is an architect, stuck at a horrible internship type job. She's made some career mistakes after going to a very expensive and prestigious school (RISD). From what my son tells me, her parents have given her no "guidance or role models." He says they are like old hippies and she has to parent them. I feel badly for her, so Steve and I try to help with advice when she asks. She is 27 and should be in a different place by now, given some of the other things she's done. So, I can see how the way you conduct your own life can affect your kid as an adult. I know for sure that my kids will be totally participatory dads who work as a team with their wives, because that is what they lived while growing up.

  4. #4
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    It is so great to hear these comments - especially from women like Triske and Robyn with adult(ish) children who worked when the kids were growing up and set an example of one way of combining your career, life, goals with the goals of your children. Thank you!!! I am hoping I am setting such a fine example for my daughter. I'm certainly in the minority as most mothers here do not work. (I'm also, at 40, a good 10 years younger than most of the mothers.)

    Xeney - on the pumping thing - do you have an office or is there an office available? I did pump for a couple of years, and it was tricky. But I would shut my door and people knew not to open it. (I also brought my daughter to work for a couple of months and it was funny to see the senior partner - a childless 50-year old - occasionally walk in while I was nursing. He was a super good sport about it and I think in the end it was a good experience for all. But I wasn't doing as much litigation work at that time - mostly research and motion writing.
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


    2011 Volagi Liscio
    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
    2003 Eddy Merckx Team SC - stolen
    2001 Colnago Ovalmaster Stars and Stripes

  5. #5
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    Excellent singletrack!!

    See my avatar - that was during the Cinderella Classic metric century a couple of years ago...
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    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


    2011 Volagi Liscio
    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
    2003 Eddy Merckx Team SC - stolen
    2001 Colnago Ovalmaster Stars and Stripes

  6. #6
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    I have an office, and my work is all appellate work so I don't have to go to court except for oral argument. But nobody ever respects the "do not disturb" sign and there is a sort of office culture of "knock and enter," without waiting to see if it's a bad time. And really it's just the interruption of billable hours that makes it so difficult. (That and the fact that we are in an ancient building where any extra electrical appliances will blow a circuit ... I would have to use a manual pump, there is no place to plug in an electric one unless I want to unplug my computer three times a day. Oh, man, I can't wait to get out of there.)

    We already have our bike trailer and I just bought the jogging conversion kit and infant insert so I can use it right away even if we have to wait a year to use it on the bike. I am being realistic about the fact that I'm not going to be doing much if any riding for the next year, but I should be able to run. I'd rather ride, but I will take what I can get.

  7. #7
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    Oh, well, the plug thing is sort of a deal breaker. Hmm. I will say that I think they may have better battery models than they did 10 years ago....
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


    2011 Volagi Liscio
    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
    2003 Eddy Merckx Team SC - stolen
    2001 Colnago Ovalmaster Stars and Stripes

  8. #8
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    What do I do? I take the kid with me!
    In a back pack...

    In a trailer...

    On a mountain tandem...


    We've gone as many as 12 miles with the pack and up to 80 in the trailer. We've had the tandem 2 weeks and he's put 75 miles on it so far, up to 23 miles at a time on road and 8 miles off.

    In his words:
    "Really really much fun!"

    I'm a stay at home mom. He's 3. It means giving up some luxuries but we're making do ok. My riding style may have changed to accommodate the kiddo, but at least I'm riding. My husband rides when he can after work and he gets first choice during the weekend, though we generally try to ride together at least once. I wouldn't have it any other way, and I get rides in during the day. I may be the luckier one, the kiddo sings and talks and asks questions and generally has a good time. I'm glad to be a part of it.

    It'll prolly be trickier when he does go to school, I plan to try working while he's learning. Well, they're only young once and it's not a sacrifice, it's an honor to be witness to his process of growing.

    Guess when he starts going to school it'll be 'you rode how far? No way!'
    I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out.

 

 

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