I don't and I won't. I have this thing about honesty and being a role model, and I don't want people to get a bad impression of mountain bikers. Here in Phoenix, there are so many places to ride legally that there's no need to poach. However, I know there are probably alot of mountain bikers who ride on state trust land and don't pay for permits. I did this myself until I learned what the rules were and how to pay.