i HATE the PI sugar shorts.... they have the MOST UNCOMFORTABLE chamois! i tried them cuz they seem to be so popular and they are short..... but i can't stand them for more than about an hour on the bike..... ICK ICK ICK!!!!!

i swear by performace ultra's.... the chamois is awesome! i wear them for all my long rides!!!!! AND they are shorter.... (i still roll them up though to raise my tanline!)