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  1. #1
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    so why don't people want to exercise?

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    Lying on the sofa today after my 3rd ride today, post-stretch and shower, blissed out on endorphins and eating potato-and-leftovers-salad, and I got to thinking: how on earth do people who don't exercise regularly manage?

    I don't mean to sound artfully clueless, but I just don't get it. I get so antsy and stressed out and unpleasant to be around if I don't my pulse rate elevated at regular intervals, but within 10 minutes of getting on my bike I'm feeling SO much happier. If I were told that for some reason I couldn't do any aerobic exercise it would seriously decrease my enjoyment of life. So how do people who just don't exercise manage to stay sane?

    And how can they feel that exercise is a chore and a hassle, and something you just do if you want to lose weight? Sure, some days are more of a chore than others, but mostly I find it 90% enjoyable. Either my head just is put together differently, or, more likely, you get addicted and gradually cue your body to enjoy it and to notice all the positive effects.

    Any ideas on this? The only time I really don't want to move my body more than necessary is when I'm mentally exhausted or sick.
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    doing nothing is just as strong a habit as what you are doing. bottom line we are creatures of habit.

    My sister has more excuses for sitting around and getting arthritic and depressed than you do to keep exercising. She says that she's sure that when she feels bad (which is often) that it is worse to get up and even walk around and who knows her body better than she does.

    and then instead of exercising, she can lose herself into a hundred other non-moving passtimes. It's just not that easy.

    hey, what about me LPH, it took until i was 55 and losing my bones before i finally GOT THE MESSAGE!!! it's HARD to change a life of sloth!!!
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    I think Mimi has it pegged.

    Also, if you don't exercise you get tired. If you're tired, you don't want to exercise! If you do exercise, you get more energy though unless someone has experienced it, they don't think that way. Not to mention that even though sometimes exercise isn't always fun (there have been times I've cursed quietly about wind, hills, or heat!) the feeling afterward could never be created artificially. It's all worth it at that time

    Actually what gets me is this -- we have people at work who complain that they can't lose weight and yet they don't exercise!! Or else they exercise once and say it did nothing and therefore didn't work. Aaarrrgh!

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    well what gets me is that my DH is more than happy to be a gym rat. He'll go in there, put in his 45 minutes on the elliptical, lift some weights and be happy.

    I hate the gym. I only go when necessary and would much rather be out enjoying the day! I've been going nuts today sitting here at work wishing I was out on my bike on this sunny day!! If I had to work out at the gym everyday, I probably wouldn't be fit either. If I'm outside, it's less about exercise and more about just playing outside.
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    Yeah, well it's exactly because I find it more an enjoyable necessity like eating that I have trouble seeing the hard/easy/chore/fun way of looking at it.

    But I sure am a creature of habit, so I guess I'm just firmly into habit mode. Habit mode can be real practical if you have good habits Maybe that means that if I'm ever incapacitated for any period of time I'll go soundly into sloth habit...?

    I have family who don't exercise at all, and it's not for any medical reasons. My father is very much an intellectual and I suspect he just feels that moving his body more than he has to is a waste of his valuable time But he seems quite happy living that way, so we obviously just feel the need for different things.
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    lph wrote ..... Either my head just is put together differently, or, more likely, you get addicted and gradually cue your body to enjoy it and to notice all the positive effects."

    I've spun this subject around with Knott and others.

    We few we happy few (people who like to move aroun') whether tall short big thin from GF triathletes to people who do Pilattes ...whatever we do ....

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    endorphine high is really addictive just as any strong drugs. Once you get into this mode, you can't sit around and DO NOTHING...

    And yes we march to a different drummer than a couch potato (someone who prefers to lead a very sedentary lifestyle).

    My younger sister is a marathon runner (almost qualified for Boston missed it by mere 2 minutes or so). She goes bonkers if she doesn't go out and run a fun 20 mile loop. And she does belong to a running club. I hate to run. I much prefer biking.

    My parents think its really stupid to exercise. So they lead a very sedentary lifestyle. They think both my sister and I are out of our minds. I think my sis is out of her mind too 20 mile fun run??

    So yes we are different.
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    Like Mimi said, it took YEARS to get it!

    If you aren't an exerciser, when you start, it exhausts you. It exhausts you to the point where it's a WHOLE lot easier to say the hill with it and just quit! Last spring I started riding, and I thought I'd go out and ride on my own a bit each morning. Well, DH came home from work those days and said, come on, let's go for a ride! And I went.

    To go from sloth to two a day rides (yeah, okay, so each was only five miles) was pretty much all I could do in those days. Like, it meant just sit and rest and drag myself to the kitchen for more water and some food now and then. What kept me doing it? I remembered going through it before, and knowing that if I could stick it out, I'd be okay.

    And while I was riding, I liked it!

    Now is the spring of my second season of biking, I didn't ride all winter, and I sure as heck didn't ride enough last summer, cuz I'm still a physical "wreck" -- out of shape and it's still easier to be a sloth than truly active, but I look forward to riding, I'm annoyed when the weather doesn't cooperate, and I'm starting to not care so much about the weather. Kind of like not waiting for the perfect snow to ski on.

    Now, for many years, DH wouldn't walk anywhere just for the walk. There had to be a purpose to it. Like, when we were young, and pregnant, and I wanted a walk, we could only go out together if it was to go somewhere, like the restaurant a couple of blocks away (I think the last walk we took together was to the hospital the night we had our second child, again, just a couple of blocks) I'm pretty sure riding his bike for exercise is a CHORE for him, but he's decided that it's something he needs to do and he'll suffer through it.

    I'm past CHORE, because I know the feeling, but it's still sometimes easier to pass it up!

    It was pretty cool when it was HIM suggesting today's ride, even though that was only because he beat me to it! (he suggested "my" hill again, and I think he's feeling smug about that he can go up it and I can't yet)

    Okay, so that was pretty round about, and maybe it didn't make what I was thinking when I started typing as clear as it could have, and maybe I could just delete all the extraneous, and spit out the point, but getting there is part of the point, in a way:

    We who don't exercise, but then start, we have a pretty long row to hoe to get to the point where it's a Good Thing. I think we don't get to the end of the row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lph View Post
    And how can they feel that exercise is a chore and a hassle, and something you just do if you want to lose weight? Sure, some days are more of a chore than others, but mostly I find it 90% enjoyable. Either my head just is put together differently, or, more likely, you get addicted and gradually cue your body to enjoy it and to notice all the positive effects.

    Any ideas on this? The only time I really don't want to move my body more than necessary is when I'm mentally exhausted or sick.
    Yes! i know how you feel! I feel exactly the same. and I want to exercise especially when I am mentally exhausted. i am sure that i am addicted to the endorphin high. I could easily have an exercise addition. I HAVE to exercise. It's like breathing to me.
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    I started out my life as a non exerciser because I had asthma as a kid. This was in the days before thay had all the nifty inhalers and such to control it. Whenever I exerted myself, my bronchial tubes would clamp shut and I spent much of the time feeling like I was drowning. I wouldn't wish that feeling on my worst enemy and I went to great pains to avoid it. As an adult, I was put on inhalers and that helped alot. pregnancy helped also. The lamaze breathing techniques just seemed to help when my tubes would seize up, and also the experience of pushing past pain was helpful in putting the pain of exercise in perspective. If I could live through labor, I could live through an uncomfortable aerobics class. I'm in an active phase right now, but I know from my own history that it is easy to fall out of the habit of exercising--even though I am fully aware of how much I enjoy it now--and it is bloody difficult to get back into the habit when you have fallen off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Like Mimi said, it took YEARS to get it!

    If you aren't an exerciser, when you start, it exhausts you. It exhausts you to the point where it's a WHOLE lot easier to say the hill with it and just quit! Last spring I started riding, and I thought I'd go out and ride on my own a bit each morning.
    Yes indeed. When I went for years without exercising, it was truly exhausting to exercise- exhausting in a very unpleasant yucky way. It's totally different from the GOOD exhausted feeling I get now from exercising or riding. Now if i'm puffing and burning my way up a steep hill, i feel wiped out at the top but it feels GOOD all over my body, and good for hours afterwards. I used to feel draggy and stiff just getting out of bed every morning. The last thing I wanted to do is exercise and feel even MORE tired. Now I bounce right out of bed feeling great every morning and can't wait to go for a ride.
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    Bouncing out of bed is such a foreign concept to me! If I did a hard ride the day before, I'm stiff and sore but it's in a good way. If I just did a spin class or a easy ride, I might be perky but that is a few hours after waking up and it's definitely after caffeine! Waking up energetic is just not me.

    While I don't exercise only for weight loss, I have to admit that muscle feels far better than mush.

    There are some days it's easier to exercise than others. I have a rule with myself though for those questionable days, I tell myself that after half an hour, I can quit. I never have yet because I have too much fun once I'm out!

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    The excuses amaze me. I have worked with so many people who say they can't work out because they have bad knees. You ask them what injury they had and they just say nothing. Or you ask them if they have tried the many low impact options (elliptical, walking, biking) and they find some reason for that as well. And these are co-workers in my age group (25-30).

    I myself was a lazy kid. I am clumsy and horrible at team sports, so I usually stayed in or bowled. Bowling is an exercise but it definitely isn't cardio. I was an excuses person, then I watched my Pawpaw suffer with congestive heart failure and diabetes for the last 14 years of his life. He was sad and tired all the time. I didn't want to be like that. My life as an active person started wiht 1/4 mile at a time on the treadmill. After I was regularly running 3+ miles outside I started cycling. Now I am pretty sure there are few things I couldn't do if I just tried- maybe nothing! I am starting back running after a few months of not doing it and I am already enjoying the benefits on how it is keeping my alert and energetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teigyr View Post
    Bouncing out of bed is such a foreign concept to me! If I did a hard ride the day before, I'm stiff and sore but it's in a good way. If I just did a spin class or a easy ride, I might be perky but that is a few hours after waking up and it's definitely after caffeine! Waking up energetic is just not me.
    I remember bouncing out of bed energized and feeling good as a kid. That went away when i grew up. For decades. Now I've noticed it since I've been biking and walking almost every day. It was a totally unexpected bonus- to notice I am bouncing out of bed like a kid again in the morning. Of course, getting enough sleep is essential to that. I get better sleep than I used to when I stayed up late watching tv at night. (ugh)
    No more stiff, old feeling in the mornings like I was so used to for so many years. Amazing. -But I still do need my caffeine in the morning!
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    Exercising habits

    The fact is, most people DON'T want to HAVE to exercise. Most of my clients, HATE exercise. They don't like sweating, they don't like HAVING to do it, they just don't like it. Most likely because of negative experiences as a kid, face it most high school "sport" experiences have often been less than positive (i know it wasn't great for me!)

    I have a theory, it isn't for lack of MOTIVATION. Motivation is the reason to be motivated. I can give you PLENTY of reasons including reducing the risk of most diseases, being able to move more easily, reduce aches etc.

    I think its because people lack COMMITMENT. That is much much harder to work on. Commitment is the PROMISE to do something. Most people just do not want to set aside time to move their bodies. It seems over whelming because of schedules, or a lot of them just don't know what to do.

    That is why I have started two new programs with my clients - one is 30 minute workout sessions (ok, not something new to training in general but something new for me to offer clients), and a new workout "series" based on 3 ten minute workouts a day.

    For strength, unless you are training for something very specific, really you don't NEED to spend that much time in the gym. My own strength workouts take 20 minutes. Many people spend more time, because they actually enjoy it, and that's ok! Also, for cardio, again, if clients are training for mtb, or a 5 km run or the MS Bike Tour, then they need to be able to do those things for that length of time. But the person who hates exercise, will likely not be signing upfor the next charity run soon. So short bouts throughout the day are well, short, and really very very effective. In fact I have found several studies for example http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
    that show this.

    The other thing to consider is the viscious circle. We feel too tired to exercise, but then we don't exercise, so we feel more tired. When we are able to break that cycle, we notice that we feel MORE energy when we exercise. In fact a recent Newsweek explained how exercise is like taking Ritalin and Prozac!

    Then there is the whole concept of self talk. We can talk ourselves OUT of anything. Most of us don't realize how much we do it (myself included). So step 1 of this is to recognize it, then figure out how to deal with it (which can be as simple as committing to breaking the cycle and going for it!)

    Anyway, this is getting long, which must mean my coffee is setting in nicely
    Have a great and wonderful day!

    Hannah

    PS great topic! I love reading everyone's replies!
    Last edited by han-grrl; 04-14-2007 at 05:04 AM.
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