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  1. #1
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    Not to offend, but I am a little surprised at all the suggestions to get medicated. I only get anxious about cycling on the road. Let's not assume the sky is falling.

    Jen

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    Passing on tips for dealing with anxiety

    A very nice woman who was in my Cindy training group is a therapist, and after some of the women said they had major fear of going down hills (one had had a very bad accident going down hill), she posted this information. Hope it's helpful:

    These training rides are actually a perfect opportunity to use what is
    called systematic desensitization (aka "gradually getting used to what
    scares you") to overcome worry (thinking about what might happen),
    anxiety (minor physical symptoms) and panic/phobia/ post-traumatic
    reactions (major physical symptoms often leading to avoiding the
    activity altogether, and/or flashbacks, nightmares, or scary thoughts
    that won't go away).

    Some suggestions:

    (1) Check out the Anxiety & Phobia Workbook, or a similar self-help
    book. You can overcome this without formalized therapy, if you take a
    systematic and structured approach. This particular book is good, but
    there are plenty of others like it in the psychology/self- help section
    of most bookstores. What you should look for is a book that explains
    anxiety and phobias and their treamtent, and provides a structured
    approach, preferably with both written and practical activities, in a
    format/style that you feel comfortable with.
    http://www.amazon. com/Anxiety- Phobia-Workbook- Edmund-Bourne/ dp/157224223X

    (2) Do-it-yourself systematic densitization
    (2a)Learn some relaxation techniques and practice regularly them when
    you are NOT riding -- meditation; deep breathing or counting your
    breaths; visualizing/ imagining, in great detail, something that calms
    you and makes you feel good (I usually imagine napping on a beach in
    the sunshine). Interestingly, smiling a little bit (some call it the
    Buddha smile, or the Mona Lisa smile) can actually calm you and
    improve your mood, even if you are just faking it at first. So try
    that, too -- be sure not to grit your teeth behind the smile!!

    (2b) Create a "fear hierarchy," with 8-10 "levels" of scariness
    related to whatever it is that bothers you. At the "scariest" end is
    the thing that you are working toward -- e.g., riding down a
    moderate-steep hill, in a group of riders, and going faster than, say,
    10mph. At the other end, you might have "riding down a gentle slope by
    myself, riding the brakes," or maybe it would even be something like
    "looking at pictures of people biking down hills." Anything that makes
    you feel a little more anxious than normal is acceptable. Fill in the
    steps in between Level 1 and Level 10-- riding steeper hills, going
    faster, riding in a group or around curves -- in whatever way fits
    your thinking/fear.

    (2c) Plan some rewards/incentives. You are doing hard work, and you
    deserve something for it! For me, the reward is usually chocolate or a
    good meal, or a new book from a bookstore -- might also be bike gear
    that you want but don't *need*, or a manicure/pedicure/ spa trip. Come
    up with a series of them, so you can reward each step of the process.

    (2d) Give yourself some reality checks. Most anxiety comes from
    overanticipating the likelihood of a negative event (e.g., "I will
    definitely crash") and from overestimating the impact of the event if
    it happens (e.g., "I will die."). Remind yourself that if you are calm
    and careful, you *might* fall or crash, but you probably won't (think
    about how many cyclists ride down how many hills every day); if you
    *do* fall or crash, you will be hurt but probably not irrevocably
    (again, consider all the bike accidents you know about; scrapes and
    bruises are way more common than more severe problems. If you've had a
    very bad experience in the past, that doesn't mean all your
    experiences will be that bad; it was unlikely but it happened, and it
    has no bearing on what will happen next time. Talk to other cyclists
    about it, and find out about their experiences. Finally, remember that
    the calmer you are when you're on your bike, the more you will be able
    to concentrate on riding properly, and the more likely you will be to
    stay in control while you're riding.

    (2e) When you can dependably use your relaxation techniques to slow
    your breathing and your heart rate a bit, start at the low end of the
    scariness scale. Just *think about* doing the thing at that end. When
    you feel yourself getting anxious, use your relaxation technique to
    calm yourself down. Do this for 10-20 minutes a day (i.e. imagine,
    feel mild anxiety, relax, and repeat) until that image or idea no
    longer causes an anxiety reaction. Then actually *do* the thing you
    were thinking about and see how that goes; again, use your relaxation
    technique and the Buddha smile to calm yourself back down. Once you've
    conquered the first step of the fear hierarchy (or rung of the
    ladder), give yourself whatever treat/reward you've planned! Don't
    forget this step, and get someone to help remind you or encourage you
    to do this piece. Heck, get them to give you a massage as the reward!

    When you are ready, move up to the next thing on the scale, using the
    same basic approach. If you get to the point where you're actually in
    the saddle and on a gradual hill (have a friend with you to help!!),
    remember that you can stop after just a few feet, and calm yourself,
    and then go on. Give yourself lots of time and encouragement. It's
    okay if some steps take more rounds of practice than others.

    (2f) Use your training group to the extent you are comfortable doing
    so. We are all in this together, and so far I've seen nothing to
    suggest that people would be anything less than enthusiastically
    supportive and helpful in whatever ways you might need. If you feel
    comfortable telling the group about your anxiety (especially before
    you're experiencing it, when it may feel too vulnerable to do so),
    tell them! Tell people what might be helpful for you -- do you need to
    check in with someone when a hill is coming up? Do you need to tell
    someone what your calming images are, so they can remind you? Do you
    want someone to stop and breathe with you at the top of a hill? Do you
    want everyone but the ride leaders to just let you alone? Are we
    allowed to cheer for you at the next regroup point? (We might want to,
    you know!!)

    Over time and with structure (that's where the book comes in handy),
    this really does work. I am a college professor, so I sometimes teach
    classes of 50-100 students, and I also make presentations to
    various-sized audiences at conferences about 2-3 times a year. I had a
    public speaking phobia, and I used to panic and usually throw up
    before every class I taught. Now, I am a little anxious before
    teaching or speaking, and my voice sometimes shakes a little or I lose
    my train of thought -- but I keep going without a hitch, and I usually
    get good evaluations from students and conference attendees.

    (3) Brief therapy can also be very useful for stuff like this, and
    there's a technique called EMDR that is particularly effective; it
    usually takes only 2-3 sessions for a trained EMDR practitioner to get
    good results for phobic/panic/ post-traumatic reactions. So, if you
    want to try some of this stuff but would prefer to have professional
    guidance, you needn't worry that it will take forever and break the
    bank!!

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    Just curious, do MEN not have this problem? Or do they just say they don't like biking and hang it up?
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
    for six tanks of gas you could have bought a bike.

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    Aw, darlin'. A lot of us, male and female, are really scared at first. That fear is natural, but in the end, it can hurt you.

    Fear makes you do dangerous things. It makes you hug the side of the road, it makes you try to be invisible, it makes you yield to cars too soon and it makes you less predictable to drivers.

    Ride with large groups until you feel more comfortable. Take notes. When you're driving in your car, observe the way confident cyclists integrate themselves into traffic. Memorize http://www.bicyclesafe.com.

    You're not a crybaby or a wuss for feeling scared. You're a smart, cautious person. Turn that fear into healthy awareness of the road around you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenLeath View Post
    Not to offend, but I am a little surprised at all the suggestions to get medicated. I only get anxious about cycling on the road. Let's not assume the sky is falling.
    Jen, I only brought it up because in your OP you called it "major anxiety."


    Quote Originally Posted by mimitabby View Post
    Just curious, do MEN not have this problem? Or do they just say they don't like biking and hang it up?
    I've read that anxiety/panic attacks are far more common in women than men, but I'm not sure if this is clinically true, or if men just won't admit to it. Personally, I do not know a man who has suffered from anxiety (except when it comes to losing their hair), but I sure know a LOT of women who do.

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    ... and if the only thing different about this fear and anything else is that it makes your husband nervous or he doesn't like it... I'd want to deal with that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetree View Post
    I've read that anxiety/panic attacks are far more common in women than men, but I'm not sure if this is clinically true, or if men just won't admit to it. Personally, I do not know a man who has suffered from anxiety (except when it comes to losing their hair), but I sure know a LOT of women who do.
    Lots of men have anxiety disorder and the panic attacks that can accompany it. (Jen, I'm not saying you have an anxiety disorder.)
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

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    I take my self and my 13 year old son on cross -country trips quite often. About 3 years ago we started taking our bikes and finding rides to take. Last year we rode 17 miles on a backroad to Cerrillos, NM, where the film Young Guns was made. Other rides were way more remote.

    I always have an ENORMOUS amount of anxiety over the trip as it approaches. I mean, I'm taking my CHILD out to the wilds of New Mexico or Oregon or Vermont. Forget what might happen on the ride...what about on the freeway? We're going to Oregon in 4 weeks, and I have a lot of anxiety about the drive from Cheyenne to Salt Lake City. What if we end up in a freak snowstorm? That's what I'm afraid of, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

    It seems like a strange thing to be afraid of, but how I cope with it is to plan and prepare. I've been all over every weather website, looking at precipitation averages for almost every town along that stretch. For the bike routes, I've looked at every route, made copies of the route, and even poured over them on Google Earth. I've got a plan for food and things to bring. I wish I still had my diesel Bug, so I could leave it running if we got stuck in the snow--but the Element will have to do. Things can happen on other parts of the trip, too, but I've already planned for those as a matter of course. (I've got my wind-up flashlight!) We had to drive to Ohio through the remains of Hurricane Katrina, and we were fine! Things happen. I prepare, and I don't go until I feel prepared. I use the energy contained in that anxiety to provide energy for my action. (One of my mantras from my poor single mom days was "Anxiety=Action".)

    All that to say that one way to handle anxiety is to imagine the worst case scenario from the safety of your living room, and DECIDE IN ADVANCE what you would do about it. Imagine what the results will be if you do fall over going uphill. Instead of just imagining what can happen, imagine what will happen after "the worst" happens. Take it to the next logical step, and the next, until you can focus on the eventual non-threatening outcome.

    (Thank you, Dale Carnegie, for that advice which I read when I was just 15. It has served me well. _How to Stop Worrying and Start Living_)

    Imagine it, and then try to figure out things you can do--in advance--to prevent the thing that you imagine will happen. Practice clipping in and out. (whatever it is that you feel anxious about) Tell yourself that you know how to clip in and out, and that you're capable of being aware of all factors that will prevent you from unclipping in time, falling into the path of a car, or falling uphill, and are fast-thinking enough to do it in time to prevent a tragedy. Even if you do fall, it's not likely that you will die or anyone else will die, and if you're hurt you will heal, and after you heal you will have a great story to tell.

    Yes, anything is possible. But is it probable? Prepare for the probable.

    Karen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
    (Thank you, Dale Carnegie, for that advice which I read when I was just 15. It has served me well. _How to Stop Worrying and Start Living_)
    GREAT book!
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

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    today was my 4th day of riding with the SPD "clipless" system.

    BEFORE the ride it's like a fight. Too cold, too windy, might rain, don't have
    time, maybe i should just drive. over and over and over again.
    (the weather HAS been a bit iffy, but not horrible)

    I have been terribly nervous before EACH ride. (drove DH crazy sunday when we rode the tandem)

    I hope this goes away soon!
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
    for six tanks of gas you could have bought a bike.

 

 

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