Thanks for the suggestions and I enjoyed the pics of the te gals, too. The ibex knickers looks comfy. Does the wool sting or feel itchy? I wish I had several more sw zip t's but never tried wool for britches. The exte ondo looks very techy and polished. Thorn, the shebeest pedal pushers waist was cut too low on me too. Yes, I am a little taller chick, 5'7 1/2'', but have a hard time finding bikes and pants the right size, because my inseam is 34". I'll report back when I find the perfect pair.