I just replaced the bars on my Waterford.
My shoulders measure 38 cm, I got a pair of 40cm Salsa Short-n-Shallows. (the old bars were 42 or so Cinellis)
I really like the Salsas! I like the ergonomic drops. The reach isn't all that short, and you have a good bit of leeway on the curves as far as where you want to put the hoods, so you can adjust the reach a bit that way. I tried Ritchey Biomax Pros, too. They felt much the same as the Salsas to me, but the Salsas were about half the cost.
As far as I know, the reason for the flared drops is so you don't smack your forearms on the upper part of the bar while you're riding in the drops.
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I on the other hand did not like the ergo bend bars that I tried - I found that they didn't make it any easier to reach my brakes/shifters from the drops and the were so shallow that I was banging my forearms on the ends of the drops - especially when sprinting. I prefer traditional bend bars even though I'm small w/ small hands.
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I'm partial to Salsa Pocos and have them on both my road bikes (38cm size), but like everything else in cycling, this is a YMMV thing. I love the ergo bends and the shallowness of them and find riding in the drops very comfortable. Like saddles, some folks have to try a few bars to find the perfect ones for them -- I was lucky that these were the second bars I'd ever tried. I had the Terry t-bars on my older road bike and did not like them as much as they didn't have enough flat part on the top (curved too quickly to the drops).
Emily
Emily
2011 Jamis Dakar XC "Toto" - Selle Italia Ldy Gel Flow
2007 Trek Pilot 5.0 WSD "Gloria" - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
2004 Bike Friday Petite Pocket Crusoe - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
I agree with Emily, bars are as personal as saddle. I tried the 40 cm salsa pocos, and as Emily noted they have a nice flat part on top, I HATED the ergo bend. Its one of those things, if the bend matches your hand shape I bet its great, but if not its NOT. Before those I had the 38 cm terry t-bar, and found it too narrow, and too shallow, but liked the round rather than curvy bends. My current bar is the 41 cm nitto noodle which is just perfect. Flat on top, shallow ramp, and nice big and round drops. BUT, I have large hands (womens glove size L). I like the noodle cuz I can have the drops parallel to the ground withoug having too big a drop between the tops and hoods. Also be aware that diff bars have differnt reaches, from ~7-9 cm, so bar choice can effect stem length. I like my bars slightly wider than my shoulders to open my rib cage for breathing and improved control.
my bike came with the Salsa Poco's, 36cm. They were too small. I got a pair of Eva bars instead, they are 40's and are much better even though i don't have 40 cm shoulders.
The great design feature of the Eva bar is that they are flared at the drop. A common size is 36cm/40cm, which means the hoods are 36cm -- perfect shoulder width for many women so you don't get shoulder/neck pain. And the drops ar 40cm, which means you have more leverage to corner and descend. Great design!
Agreed. My 38cm bars are a little wider than my shoulders, which are around 36 cm, but 36cm bars just feel too narrow and squirrely to me, and anything that opens my chest up for better breathing can only help. You just don't want to go too wide compared to your shoulders, resulting in pain.
Emily
Emily
2011 Jamis Dakar XC "Toto" - Selle Italia Ldy Gel Flow
2007 Trek Pilot 5.0 WSD "Gloria" - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
2004 Bike Friday Petite Pocket Crusoe - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
thanks for all of the responses.
The Eva bar sounds like a good idea -- I did a search for it online and the narrowest I could find was 38/42 -- which I worry would put me in a similar position to my current bars. The smaller size sounds like it might be perfect.
Anyone who has tried the Ritchey biomax -- how significant is the flare in the drops? Apparently it's three degrees -- but how does that translate into added width?
I suppose I really should visit my bike shop -- however, there's not a single woman on the staff and I often -- usually -- feel like they treat me in a patronizing way because I"m a girl. So I go there to buy tubes and Co2 and do all the important searching online. (Probably not the best plan...). Also I doubt they'll have a wide selection of smaller bars.
Last edited by VeloVT; 02-09-2007 at 04:26 AM.