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    This "a calorie is a calorie" approach seems awfully common sense. My struggle? There's so much 'professional' misinformation out there that I don't know what to believe anymore...This is sad

    Healthy shouldn't be complicated...and it's been made that way by profit motivated charlatans.

    Thanks for the thoughts on this...
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    When I was whining to my doc about my sloooooow metabolism he asked me a very simple question..."if you stopped putting food into your body, what would happen?". It's a very simple response to ALL the obstacles we toss up about weight loss...if we stopped eating we would waste away and die. The conclusion...eat sensibly and find a balance with movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post
    This "a calorie is a calorie" approach seems awfully common sense. My struggle? There's so much 'professional' misinformation out there that I don't know what to believe anymore...This is sad
    Well it's not as much the information that's out there, but the interpretation of the information. Doctors and scientists generally agree on how to lose weight, but it is a journalist's interpretation that make the impact. They often summarize articles written by doctor's and scientists from scientific, peer-reviewed journals. While the original article may have both sides of the story, often the journalists writing these articles have no scientific background and inadverantly skew results by only reporting part of the story.
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    research and the media

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    i couldn't agree more. Often the media will pick up very very old news in terms of science and suddenly its this madness over this tiny piece of research evidence.

    when i hear of something, i will go back to the source. i will try to find the scientific journal article on line, or at least read the abstract. you can get a lot of info...like who is funding the research (which can significanly affect what results are published), how many subjects in the study, how long they did the study for (you would be amazed how many papers get published from a single meal fed to a single group of volunteers).

    all this will affect how meaningful those results are...

    also keep in mind:

    everyone is always looking for the KEY. the ONE THING that will solve all their problems. THERE IS NO ONE THING! here are my "rules":
    Eat to live don't live to eat
    Eat healthy and well balanced
    listen to your bodies
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    Eya, 'tis true, we can spend more time looking for shortcuts than it would take to do it right the first time.

    I was down to 142 this morning, yippee Here's to trying to be good on my conference trip - but it's an educational conference, so they *don't* have chocolates everywhere 'cause we don't have that many dollars for them to woo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geonz View Post
    I was down to 142 this morning, yippee
    Mr Silver HIGH FIVES Geonz

    I have to travel to Tempe in a couple weeks and I'm already concerned about breaking my eating/exercising routine!!! I have to be consistent and not lose my stride
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    You guys think your business trips are bad...well I'm about to go away to India for a month! I had been doing very well watching what I've been eating the last few months, but I've decided one of two things will happen:

    1. I will come back 30 lbs heavier than when I left
    or
    2. I will get some strange stomach bug and lose 20 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post
    I have to travel to Tempe in a couple weeks and I'm already concerned about breaking my eating/exercising routine!!! I have to be consistent and not lose my stride
    the i will not tell you about the Four Peaks Brewery, but i will tell you that there are great hiking/running trails all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chickwhorips View Post
    the i will not tell you about the Four Peaks Brewery, but i will tell you that there are great hiking/running trails all over.
    Hey! Thanks for not telling me about the embedded hyperlink to their website! Guess I know where I won't be eating one night since you didn't tell me about the place
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    I hate business trips but I'll be gone Sunday through Thursday of next week, with mornings free. Thankfully, it's in the same timezone, that always messes me up. Anyway, I ALWAYS bring my workout clothes, including my bathing suit/goggles and running shoes, and this time I'm thinking I'll try stairs. Hotels ALWAYS have stairs, and they are usually cool and quiet. I am afraid of hotel gyms and sometimes hotel pools (do they have lap pools or just "messing around" pools? ...).

    I get tired of eating out when traveling. I get caught in this "I can't take it with me so I better eat it" mentality. I've started mentally dividing my food in half when I go to restaurants, and when you're traveling... you can't eat the rest for lunch tomorrow. And, if you're somewhere nice with fresh fish (for example), you can't help but try the lobster bisque and the salad and appetizers and and...

    Elevators down, stairs up!

    Hey, guess I should add... I will be in San Francisco at the RSA Conference if anyone is in a related field and will be coming by.
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    I read in another forum that the author of this study admits that there are flaws in it. They demonstrated the flaws with statistical equations - but my eyes glazed over.

    A calorie may not be a calorie depending on the energy it takes to metabolize it. Generally, fat goes right to the hips. But, we know that, right?

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