Quote Originally Posted by Trekhawk View Post

(trainers and pain seem to go together I'm all for avoiding pain)
Funny I was just thinking about this, sort of.

If I keep my HR on an outdoor ride as high as I do on the trainer, I average about two mph faster on the outdoor ride than I do on the trainer and I'm riding similar gears.

To me, they are just different species.

I do wish more of us had our journals available to see on BJ. I enjoy stalking. Sometimes I get trapped at my computer by my cat. It's either stalk people's journals or look for stolen goods on Craig's list. Jo's journals are pretty good.

V.