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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    WA State
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    I've had 3 fittings from 3 different shops...

    fitting one - my old bike that was too big. These guys did a lot of measuring put it all into a fancy computer and came up with a print out. Unfortunately when it came to actually altering the bike they had a theory that everyone should ride more upright and rather than saying we should not bother with this bike (because it was actually way to big for me and could not be changed enough) they put a taller stem (it had a quill stem so this could be done) on it and sent me on my way. This did nothing for the shoulder pain I was experiencing and put so much presssure on my butt that I started having back and butt pain. So in a nutshell these guys had all the fancy technology, but then didn't use it....

    fitting two - my Fuji. These guys did a good job took some measurements, put me on the trainer, adjusted my cleats, flipped my stem (and suggested I get a slightly shorter one) and said once I got used to that position that I could move the spacers to drop the handlebars even lower (I was looking for a more aggressive position).

    fitting three - my Ruby. This fitting was done at a physical therapist's office. Their methods were a little more sophisticated. They took a lot of measurements - did the angles of my elbows and knees in certain positions and had a computer hooked up to the trainer that you could look at your pedal stroke on. In the end, as my husband and I had set it up as close to the Fuji as we could, it turns out we had done a pretty good job. There were some small tweaks to my shifters and saddle height, and again the suggestion that I get a shorter stem, which I did.

    Any fitter should ask you how you ride you bike and what you want to get from the fitting before they do it. They should understand the difference between someone who wants to race and someone who wants to tour. If they don't understand that not everyone wants an agressive racing position then they shouldn't do fits! Conversely if they have a one thing fixes all fit problems attitude (like my first fit) they shouldn't be doing fits either. They should also check to see how flexible you are as that will have a lot to do with how comfortable you will be with saddle to handlebar positioning.
    "Sharing the road means getting along, not getting ahead" - 1994 Washington State Driver's Guide

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  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Reporting from Moonshine Mountain
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    Juju - My SO and I have had one fit done and are completely happy with them. My SO's fitting resulted in swapping out a few components and nothing more. Mine was more involved.

    The guy who did my fitting asked me lots and lots of questions to determine what kind of rider I am (not racing, more the endurance type). He then put me on my bike on a trainer & did lots of measurements, some tweaking and more measurements, then more tweaking. The issues I had were shoulder & neck pain, numbness in my hands & butt pain. In the end, he replaced my saddle, my seatpost & my stem. What I found out is that the top tube of my bike was too long. He brought the bike as close to fitting me as possible, then sent me home to put in a couple hundred miles on it. He wanted me to come back & let him know how it felt. He told me that I might be able to ride with that bike for years to come, but that in the end I would need to get a new bike if I wanted one that fit me properly. Meanwhile he was going to look at stock bicycles & see if any came close to the geometry I needed.

    I went home and put a couple hundred miles on the bike while he found a Fuji wsd bike that approximated what needed. I went back to the shop a couple weeks later & tried out the Fuji. What a difference it made to have a bike that fit! However, the Fuji was aluminum and I didn't want an aluminum bike, and it also had 650 wheels & I wanted 700's. He gave me options of manufacturers and in the end I decided to go with an IF custom frame. That was my choice; he never pushed me to go that route. I cannot tell you how wonderful it feels to have a bike that fits correctly!

    In the end I think a good fitter will do what he can with what you have, while also being completely honest with you about your equipment. He will leave it up to you to decide what you want to do and how much expense you want to go to. For the record, I am 53 & struggle with weight issues as well.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes! -jane
    "When I'm on my bike I forget about things like age. I just have fun." Kathy Sessler

    2006 Independent Fabrication Custom Ti Crown Jewel (Road, though she has been known to go just about anywhere)/Specialized Jett

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    206
    Hi juju

    I am sort of in the same position. Wednesday morning I am going to go to the shop that sells the bikeframe I want. But they need to do a proper fitting to determine the correct frame, stem & handlebar size. My guess is that my current frame is on size to big but I am not sure (which bugs me). Already I am starting to get nervous about the fact if they are going to treat this professionally or just 'throw their hat' at it. I've talked to the people of the shop twice now (once to just look at the frame and to get a feeling about the shop and once at a bikeshow) and they seem to be genuine in their attitude towards me (some guys have a large ego when it comes to their bike 'knowledge').

    Oh well, only time will tell ...
    My new baby for 2007

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Shelbyville, KY
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    My fitter had a questionaire for me to complete when I arrived so that he could get a feel for the type of riding I do. He also spent some time talking to me and asking me what I wanted him to do for me. The fitting process took almost 2 1/2 hours and I walked away with a bike I much more comfortable on. I don't feel all stretched out on my bike and I don't feel I'm reaching for the pedals as much (keep in mind my left leg is shorter than my right so a perfect could not be obtained for my left leg). It was overal a great experience and I'm looking forward to the warm weather when I can once again ride on the roads for hours on end and really see what my benefits are from my fitting last month.
    Marcie

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Cape Cod, MA
    Posts
    414
    I just had a basic fitting today to tweak some comfort issues on my bike. The fitter was John Allis, a former Olympian and current coach for the Harvard cycling team. There were no computers or special body measurements involved. He watched me spin on the bike for a bit, asked what comfort issues I was having, measured my seat height and dropped it a bit. Measured my knee-to-pedal relationship and brought the seat forward a bit. My major issues were neck and shoulder discomfort and numbness in my thumb and first two fingers on longer rides. He said that counter-intuitively I probably needed to be more stretched out on the bike. I told him I felt like I wanted to be a bit more upright on the hoods, and by lengthening the stem we were able to get me in a more stretched out position and raise the handlebars about 1.5cm. I did a one-hour Spinervals session on the trainer tonight and it felt pretty good. Time will tell if the comfort issues improve, and I probably won't really know until I can get back on the road for some longer rides. (I'm waiting for 40-degree+ days!)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Champaign, Illinois
    Posts
    63
    I just got fitted for my bike last week. Lots of measurements and then several options for how I want to be on the bike--in my case more upright, I think. Scott knows me and knows what I want to do with my riding so that wasn't an issue in my case. But I think he would have asked otherwise. We looked at comfort and comfort plus positions and the main difference was in the stem. We decided to go with comfort plus and the option of switching the stem if I want a less upright position. All the other measurements were the same with either of those two options. But there were 5 or 6 possibilities, depending on the type of rider you are.

    I'm in my fifties and am always concerned with back issues. And I don't plan to race so comfort plus is probably the best choice for me. But when the bike comes in, we can check to make sure it fits right.
    You should never stop learning: :

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Lakewood, Co
    Posts
    1,061
    Serotta fitter's have a prototype bike called a sizecycle. After they determine your measurements they set up the sizecycle to let you feel how different the changes are that you need.

    I had my Aegis refitted by a Serotta fitter because I was having shoulder pain. It turned out that my handlebars were 4cm to low. To make changes it required a new fork. I wasn't convinced that 4 cm would make much of a difference until I felt it on the size cycle. I then took the bike to the shop that does my mechanical work. They ordered the fork for me and installed it.

    When I ordered my custom Serotta the setup of my old bike was used as a starting point. The sizecycle was hooked up to a computer and I pedaled for approx. 1/2 hr before the fitter looked at anything. Then he made some minor adjustments. I was injured so my leg strength wasn't very good so I never asked what results the computer showed.

    Be sure you know what it is about your bikes that feel good and what it is you don't like, what kind of riding you do etc. Be honest when they interview you. My orginal Serotta fitter checked my flexiblity. Also, if you need a new stem, etc. and the shop installs it you will pay for parts and labor.

    After the fitting, have the shop give you a sheet with your measurements. That way, if anything gets moved, saddle, etc. you can have it set back where it belongs.

    Here's a picture of me on my custom Serotta. I love the fit of this bike!
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