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  1. #1
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    I use a squirt about the same as I'd use for dishes, but since it's going into less water (the Park chain cleaner) it ends up a lot more concentrated.

    I'd guess I use maybe 1/2 or 1 teaspoon of soap and then fill the rest of the way with water?

    I usually run the chain through 30-40 times, dump the soapy water, refill with clean soapy water, run through again. Rinse.

    Probably gets my chain about as clean as the citrus degreaser the Park chain gang came with (though doesn't smell quite as yummy!). It does dry a lot faster, which I like because I'm *totally* into instant gratification!
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    I'm trying an experiment this year. After years of doing the ol' Finish Line chain cleaner filled w/ various LBS degreasers, I started using a self-cleaning lube (Rock'N'Roll Gold). I've read and been told several times that with self-cleaning lubes, you should not degrease the chain. Apparently, the residue from degreasers ends up contributing to the accumulation of gunk.

    So, I'm having a brand-spanking new chain installed this year and I'm not gonna touch it with degreaser. It'll only be cleaned by the application of self-cleaning lube. I'll let y'all know in a few months how my chain looks.

    Has anyone else here already tried this?
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    MEC cleaner

    I use the "green juice" from mountain equipment co-op here in canada (its kind of like REI).

    http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...=1169142740215

    i then use soapy water to remove the degreaser, then wipe wipe wipe, and relube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalidurga View Post
    I'm trying an experiment this year. After years of doing the ol' Finish Line chain cleaner filled w/ various LBS degreasers, I started using a self-cleaning lube (Rock'N'Roll Gold). I've read and been told several times that with self-cleaning lubes, you should not degrease the chain. Apparently, the residue from degreasers ends up contributing to the accumulation of gunk.

    So, I'm having a brand-spanking new chain installed this year and I'm not gonna touch it with degreaser. It'll only be cleaned by the application of self-cleaning lube. I'll let y'all know in a few months how my chain looks.

    Has anyone else here already tried this?
    I've wanted to try this, but I always have trouble getting the gook that comes on the chain off - and I think you have to do that before you can use the nice self cleaning lube - don't you
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA_in_NC View Post
    I've wanted to try this, but I always have trouble getting the gook that comes on the chain off - and I think you have to do that before you can use the nice self cleaning lube - don't you
    When I first used the self-clean lube, I degreased the chain first with my chain cleaner. Then I finally tried just using the lube. I still pick up a little bit of gunk, but it wipes off pretty easily. That's why I want to try this with a brand-new chain, for the sake of comparison.
    "How about if we all just try to follow these very simple rules of the road? Drive like the person ahead on the bike is your son/daughter. Ride like the cars are ambulances carrying your loved ones to the emergency room. This should cover everything, unless you are a complete sociopath."
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    But my brand new chains always *come* with gook on them I'll be interested to see what results you get, though...
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    When I cleaned my chain last week, I spent more time running it through a towel than I did in the chain cleaner. I think it's the cleanest I've ever gotten it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA_in_NC View Post
    But my brand new chains always *come* with gook on them I'll be interested to see what results you get, though...
    My understanding is that is simply a protective lubricant to prevent rust more than anything else - that's why you always need to lube an "out of the box" new chain.
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