Equus, I know what you mean about the houdini thing! My TWH's don't seem to do that. They are pretty gentle and nothing really bothers them. I rode my bike today, tomorrow I will be on the horses! It's been in the 60's here and wonderful riding weather (horse and bike!)

I am sure I have some questions for all about training , nutrition and other things, but to tired right now. Thanks for the offer to share info! Can always learn something new and helpful.