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    Quote Originally Posted by Triskeliongirl View Post
    I am really curious about this. If you don't wear hose then what do you wear? Are you saying you wear a skirt suit with bare legs? To me that would look just so wrong. Do people actually do that in CA? Now, in summer I would would wear a skirt with sandles and no hose, but that would not be considered 'professional' just a comfortable thing I would do personally cuz I dress casually for work.
    I either misspoke or you missunderstood. I said that I can't imagine NOT wearing hose with a business suit. I rarely go without hose when I wear a dress, for that matter. I just prefer them.

    ETA: I should have read the rest of the thread -- that got straightened out!

    mimitabby, I have the same issue with earrings and even necklaces and bracelets. I can't wear a watch, either.
    Last edited by pooks; 01-09-2007 at 07:12 PM.

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    earings, bracelets, watch ...? Sounds like nickel allergy. I had to invest in a titanium watch (no nickel). Expensive, but put an end to the rash on my arm. I can still wear earings, but not all day. Just for a few hours on special occasions, and must be gold or surgical steel.
    Half-marathon over. Sabbatical year over. It's back to "sacking shirt and oat cakes" as they say here.

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    I highly recommend this book. It's called "Women Don't Ask" and is about general negotiation and communication differences between men and women in business.

    http://www.amazon.com/Women-Dont-Ask...e=UTF8&s=books

    I also recommend Val Henson's Salary Negotiation HOWTO (free! - she's the big reason I even know that book exists, too):

    http://infohost.nmt.edu/~val/howto_salary/

    It's not easy and there ARE differences between how women are negotiated with and how women negotiate (or don't!).

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    Just checked back on the first post. The interview was yesterday. So .......? How'd it go???
    Half-marathon over. Sabbatical year over. It's back to "sacking shirt and oat cakes" as they say here.

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    Adding my wing-flaps to Ducks... how'd it go?


    Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying,
    "I will try again tomorrow".


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    Sorry, I never posted a follow-up, I'm still trying to digest everything. I think it went well. And ladies, I looked fabulous in my sheer nylons and closed-toed shoes.

    I went in for what was supposed to be 2 hours of interviewing, ended up staying for lunch and being there for a total of 5 hours, talking with different people. I was surprised that I didn't get too many of the typical interview questions. In fact, I didn't get many questions at all, aside from why do you want to come here, what is your background, blah blah. I was bracing myself for my most hated interview question "what is your biggest weakness?" and it never came up. But it was odd that the interviewers did more of the talking. I had a few questions for them about working in a small company, but across the board it seemed to be them talking the whole time, which struck me as a little strange. But then again, these are scientists and (being a scientist myself) I know we're not known for our great social skills.

    I got the impression from my friend that they really liked me and want me for the job and judging by my discussions with the pres of the company, depending on how the salary negotiations go, they're prepared to make me an offer. It's a really big decision and there are a lot of pros and cons to weigh. The good thing is, I'm not desperate, I have a job that I somewhat like, right now. That gives me a great advantage in being able to take my time and think about this decision. Though not too much time, I need to have this wrapped up in the next few weeks because I'm going away for a whole month (!!), which they are aware of. I will keep you all updated as things progress.

    Thank you all for your suggestions, advice and humor!
    It's only worth it if you're having fun

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    Sounds like you rocked the casbah!

    “Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”

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    Waytago cyclechick! What with the suit, the hose, the shoes ... and of course your skills, experience and personality ... you really wow'ed 'em. I think it sounds like they'd decided already on the basis of your cv and were just calling you in for the "interview" to see if they could convince you to take the job. Scientists are used to focusing on the evidence rather than on anything as subjective as impressions, or at least we like to think we are.
    Half-marathon over. Sabbatical year over. It's back to "sacking shirt and oat cakes" as they say here.

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    You're in a good place!

    One with options is one to be envied.

    You can go or you can stay...that's a good place to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    Sounds like you rocked the casbah!
    Now that song is stuck in my head!!!
    It's only worth it if you're having fun

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    Well done on having what sounds like a successful day there.

    I doubt you would have been invited to hang around for five hours meeting and greeting unless you have at least made the short short list.

    Congrats, sounds like you felt and looked confident and handled yourself professionally

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    I'm getting a little nervous now. After I first met with them I heard back in hours. After this second meeting on Tuesday, they said I'd hear from the probably later on in the week, and it's later on in the week and I'm starting to get nervous since I haven't heard back yet. Ugh, maybe I was being overly confident in assuming I'd get an offer, but the discussions I had with them seemed to be moving in that direction. Or maybe this is a negotiation tactic. He has me sweat it out a little bit as he tries to get the upper hand in the situation.

    Or maybe I"m just over analyzing this. He's probably busy, he does have a business to run, afterall!
    It's only worth it if you're having fun

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    well done cyclechic!

    sounds like you blitzed it!

    i have been reading this thread with great interest cos i have my first academic interview on mon

    I hope i go as well as you did cyclechic!. I'm kind of nervous. I've been for a lot of interviews in my time, but never for an academic position (i'm doing my phd now). So i'm terrified about what they are going to ask

    I am so nervous they are going to expect me to come up with a whole bunch of hugely interesting and inspiring topics i will offer any students i supervise.... but right now i'm so engrossed in writing up i cant see beyond my topic . I know i will come back from the SARMAC conference in July with heaps of ideas, so maybe i'll just have to give them that line

    Am heading into supervision this morning, and my supervisor is going to help me prepare. I will be so glad when it's over

    I keep telling myself, i'll be fine and if i dont get the job that's ok. I'll at least know what to expect next time

    I know there are some academics out there in TE land... if you have any advice ... feel free to put it out. I didnt want to ask earlier cos i didnt want to hijack this thread...
    To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived — This is to have succeeded - Emerson

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    Good luck, thistle! I wish I could give you advice for an academic position, but I know it's a very very different world. I used to work in academia, but as a lab tech.

    I'm sure you'll do great! Let me know how it goes.

    And oh yeah, remember to wear panty hose and closed toed shoes with your suit
    It's only worth it if you're having fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycleChic06 View Post
    Good luck, thistle! I wish I could give you advice for an academic position, but I know it's a very very different world. I used to work in academia, but as a lab tech.

    I'm sure you'll do great! Let me know how it goes.

    And oh yeah, remember to wear panty hose and closed toed shoes with your suit
    Thanks Cyclechic!

    I will wear closed toe shoes but i'm not going the panty hose. it's 39 degrees here today (102.2F)... i'd just expire

    they are going to have to love me sans pantyhose
    To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived — This is to have succeeded - Emerson

 

 

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