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    Quote Originally Posted by mimitabby View Post
    Today I went to Bicycles West and tried out a Specialized Dolce. 48 cm. YOu can get these for less than 1000 dollars.
    The hoods were exactly where I wanted them. It had 700 wheels, but NO TOE OVERLAP at all.
    Mimi
    I have the Dolce, too and I was surprised at how well it fit, without the toe overlap. Thing is, if you plan on going for this bike, try getting the 2006 version, NOT the 2007 version. Specialized downgraded the Shimano components this year. The 2006 Elite has all 105 components, the 2007 version has mixed 105/Tiagra. I've seen new 2006 Dolces for as low as $800 on eBay so it's a better deal.
    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetree View Post
    Mimi
    I have the Dolce, too and I was surprised at how well it fit, without the toe overlap. Thing is, if you plan on going for this bike, try getting the 2006 version, NOT the 2007 version. Specialized downgraded the Shimano components this year. The 2006 Elite has all 105 components, the 2007 version has mixed 105/Tiagra. I've seen new 2006 Dolces for as low as $800 on eBay so it's a better deal.
    Good luck!
    Blue,
    the Dolce is a sweet bike, but it doesn't take fenders. I can't ride with my bike club without fenders. I am just happy to know there IS a bike that fits period in that price range. I can consider going custom, but what about most women who can't? the dolce is a sweet alternative
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
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    and from our good friends at Rivendell

    background: I wrote to Rivendell. I wanted to understand the discrepancy between the 50 cm that the salesperson at the LBS measured on the Bleriot and the 52 cm in the specs on their website. I also told him what I thought my standover height was:


    I don’t know the fellow and have no reason have an opinion about him or his opinion, but beyond people and titles and nervousness...going back to basic grey rocks and cold air and solids, liquids, and gases, just wiping out everything except simple, understandable, irrefutable fundamental things we can call Facts, please consider this: (by that I mean nothing more than “see if it makes sense to you.”)

    € if you grabbed the bike at the end of the top tube, then the location of the end of the top tube would matter.
    € if you don’t do that, it doesn’t. But where you DO grab matters. And it isn’t the end of the top tube.
    € the goal, the ultimate goal, is a riding position that is comfortable. If you aren’t that, you can’t achieve any of your other goals, whatever they may be (efficiency? Speed? Bike control?). If you are comfortable, good things will follow.
    € your riding position is determined ONLY by the spatial relationship of the cranks, saddle, and handlebar.
    € your PBH determines your crank height above the pedal. For you, that’s 64cm. I’m guessing that I would measure your PBH at 74.5 or even 75, because the way I make people do it is the (for lack of a brief term) “lift hard until it hurts and let’s not mess around” way. (note from mimi, this is how they find the pubic bone)
    € How far behind the pedals your saddle is...is largely a matter of preference, but in general, just shove the saddle most or all the way back on the seat post, and use a seat post with some offset. Don’t go by the “knee over pedal center” thing that 99 percent of bike-people go by. No time to shoot holes in it now, but trust me (or not)--that approach is quite holey.
    € Use a stem that allows you to get the handlebar at least 2cm higher than the saddle. The only stems I know that’ll do this are the Nitto Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Technomic. Anybody who sells Bleriots can get them for you.
    € you’re a woman who’s 63.5 inches tall…get a 7cm or 8cm stem. There are all kinds of body proportions in women, not all are long-legged and short-torsoed...but all the women I’ve seen except super lanky ones taller than 5-9, have short arms.
    € Women always get bad bar-width advice. The bar is a lever that helps you control the bike. Your arms are weaker than your legs, so you need a longer lever to aid you in controlling your bike. Ride 44s. The “bars as wide as your shoulders” rule is like the earth is flat... The best drop bar you can get, the most comfortable, is a Nitto Noodle. Any Bleriot dealer can get it. They’ll suggest a 41...or maybe a Terry 36. Get 44s if you want more leverage against the bike.

    Other models in your size, yes, but we sell most of these direct, not through dealers. Your dealer got his Bleriot from QBP, not from us. BUT....for an all-around versatile road bike, you can’t beat it. You aren’t missing out, not knowing about our other bikes. The Bleriot is a fantastic bike---you can do anything on it, almost, and it’s so comfortable, and it handles great. If you put the right parts on it, you’ll be in heaven, Mimi. It’s just such a nice bike.

    Here’s our website stuff on the Bleriot. Maybe you’ve seen it:

    http://www.rivbike.com/bikes/bleriot

    The main site (rivbike.com) has other stuff on it, things that might be worth looking at for a minute or two.

    http://www.rivbike.com/how_to_pick_y...iding_position

    And

    http://www.rivbike.com/how_to_pick_y...iding_position

    Good luck with your bike. Any other questions, just ask. Please excuse any hint of brusqueness in this reply. I’m trying to do it quickly because I’ve got family to go to, and sometimes the efficient way of writing comes off harshly. I sure don’t mean it that way! I am happy to answer any question, and I don’t MEAN to interfere with your local advisors. I just love bikes, and I l like people, and I like my job, and I do this a lot, and…out of that comes some strong opinions, maybe.
    Best to you,

    Grant
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimitabby View Post
    Blue,
    the Dolce is a sweet bike, but it doesn't take fenders. I can't ride with my bike club without fenders. I am just happy to know there IS a bike that fits period in that price range. I can consider going custom, but what about most women who can't? the dolce is a sweet alternative
    ok.... i'm confused... you CAN'T ride with this club without fenders? why not??????? MOST road bikes do NOT have fenders! is it not a road club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caligurl View Post
    ok.... i'm confused... you CAN'T ride with this club without fenders? why not??????? MOST road bikes do NOT have fenders! is it not a road club?
    It IS a road bike club and they DO require fenders. Welcome to Seattle, my dear Cali girl. You can't do a pace line (which I don't do anyway) in the rain
    without mudflaps. It can get REALLY ugly.
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
    for six tanks of gas you could have bought a bike.

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    ahhhhhhhhhhh ok.... that explains it! (i'm not a paceline/drafter person either! 99.9% of my rides are done on my own steam! i've attempted to do the drafting thing with hubby... but i'm rarely close enough to get the benefit of the draft!) i did a ride not too long ago in palm springs where several of us rode in a "line" for a bit... but NOONE was close enough to call it a paceline or drafting! lol!)

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    Cali, it's a club rule. So if I ride this weekend, People will make comments about my lack of mudflaps. (I have one of those stick on fenders in the back) And hopefully we wont' get a lot of rain because it's messy.
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
    for six tanks of gas you could have bought a bike.

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    right.... i got it! i wasn't commenting on the club rules once you explained! i was making the paceline/drafting comments secondary to your explaination cuz of what you said: "You can't do a pace line (which I don't do anyway)"

    i completely understand about clubs and the comments people can make! (i think that's part of the reason i'm glad there are no clubs in my area! lol! no "club politics!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetree View Post
    Mimi
    I have the Dolce, too and I was surprised at how well it fit, without the toe overlap. Thing is, if you plan on going for this bike, try getting the 2006 version, NOT the 2007 version. Specialized downgraded the Shimano components this year. The 2006 Elite has all 105 components, the 2007 version has mixed 105/Tiagra. I've seen new 2006 Dolces for as low as $800 on eBay so it's a better deal.
    Good luck!

    that seems to be their MO! my 2004 (original bike) dolce elite had much better components than the 2005.... (my 2004 had a mixture with plenty of ultegra thrown in!)

    they've done the same thing with the ruby's! my 2006 ruby was COMPLETE dura-ace... now for 2007 they've done a bit of hodgepoding.... throwing in a bunch of ultegra, leaving a bit of DA and downgrading the wheels from DA to roval.... (but then... the've dropped the price this year, too!)

 

 

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