I have narrowed my search down to the Santa Cruz Heckler. I thought about the Norco 4x4, and the Juliana Superlight, but the Heckler wins out! With the 5th Element I can get 6 inches of travel and still have a bike that fits. I am going to get the frame and build it up on my own. 24 inch rear tire and Hope brakes, Juliana saddle and all the great stuff that works well for a shorty. Ride safe.