yep kteach, I'm a nycc member. Let me know the next time you go on a nycc ride. Maybe I'll be going on it as well. Some of the WCC rides look good, but I can't quite figure the ride classification system. The rides with the mileage I want (50+) seem to be faster than I'm accustomed to, especially in hilly terrain.

Do you have any experience w WCC rides?