yes, steel can be light, don't know what mine weighs but read that only 1/5th of any bike is the frame. You could have OCLV, Ti whatever but heavy stuff hung on it and my bike could be lighter.
But then I don't get to be a weight weinie till I can't take 30 lbs. off ME.![]()



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) and my husband purchased his Riv Atlantis from this guy - and then had to re-do the cabling and various other poorly assembled bits, but that was OK by my husband, he likes to tinker. But, based on others' experiences I consider ourselves fortunate we were not swindled. We dealt with him directly and not via mail order. Still, he started flaking out on us near the end too, but we still feel we got a good deal on the bike so no particularly hard feelings on our end.
