first triathlonites 2006-07

**Bikingmomof3** · 11-16-2006, 12:27 PM

OTG- why 39 days? I missed it or forgot.

Enjoy the 5k.

**Offthegrid** · 11-16-2006, 12:34 PM

Why 39 days?

Really, I just want to lose about 10-15 pounds more. My trainer suggested in January I start jogging, and I asked if I could jog on Christmas Day. He said that'd be OK.

My long walks are 5 miles now at over 4 mph pace, so I have the fitness; I just want to lose a bit more weight.

I can't WAIT for Christmas!

**Bikingmomof3** · 11-16-2006, 01:01 PM

You sound to me like you are in very good cardiovascular shape.

**Crankin** · 11-16-2006, 05:26 PM

Hey Tasha,

Actually REALLY good instructors can do an awesome class off of the bike; some of the best ones do. S/he should spend the time walking around and checking client's postions, HR, percieved exertion, etc. But, it sounds like this one was just not so good. I've only run once since my last post and that was only 22 minutes, with some walking in there. I think I should should probably back off some of the speed and go for the mileage, but I'm afraid I'll get stuck at a slower speed. I am very comfortable running at 5.5 or 5.7 mph. I did one of the Cyclo-Zen DVDs today. It was 30 minutes of yoga and an interval ride on the trainer. Oh my God. The yoga was OK (I've never done it) and I didn't feel too uncoordinated, but the riding was so hard. It was 5 repeats in the big ring for 3 minutes, with a one minute rest between each interval. Each time I had to put it into a harder cog, too (I only used 3 though). And, you were supposed to be doing this at a 100 rpm cadence! I could barely get above 75, with bursts to 82. So if I do this once a week, like you're supposed to, I hope to get up to an 85-90 cadence, which for me would be a lot. Normally i ride at around 75-85 in an easier gear. I'm finding that I haven't been going to the gym much and we have plenty of stuff now, set up in my loft at home. I am not going to start the official Cyclo Core training, with the 12 week program until December 1st.

Robyn

**eclectic** · 11-17-2006, 06:38 AM

OTG - awesome walking prowress!

I can understand the wanting to lose a few more LBS (I mean lbs

before running - It will be easier on your knees - good luck!

I am trying to drop another 10-15 lbs (I am down 12.5 since mid September and 22.5 since last January - I figure it is cheaper to lighten up my body than buy a lighter bike

) - why is it so much easier to put it on than take it off ??? Spoken by all dieters everywhere

robyn - whoa 3 min 100 rpm in big ring ouch! How is that on your knees?
Does running work like cycling where you get a good base laid then start working on speed?
that is my plan anyway, I talked to one of our phy ed teachers here and she told me to get the distance worked up first then start working on sprints. I have a ways to go on the distance so it will definately be awhile before I sprint.

**Crankin** · 11-18-2006, 05:20 AM

Yep, running is like cycling, in that you should train by periodization; set your base first. Of course, I haven't been doing that! I was stuck at cycling at 12-13 mph for a couple of years because I didn't push myself. I'm trying to push more with the running. As to the DVD interval training, yes, I think 100 rpm in the big ring is bad for your knees. Mine were complaining just a little after the workout and I wasn't going anywhere near that fast. It's just physically impossible for me now. I don't have the strength. I know this is to build strength/power, but when I'm on the bike I tend to let the terrain build my strength and use the easiest gear that I can go the fastest in. I spin up hills and so far that has worked for me, even on the biggest ones in Europe.
I am constantly amazed at how out of shape I feel with every new thing I try. If I feel this way, what do really out of shape people feel like?!!

**Kimmyt** · 11-18-2006, 05:25 AM

Robyn, I realized this a few days ago as well. I was running, and huffing and panting. Compared to most people I work around, though, I am very fit. So if it is this hard for me, how is it for those people who lose tons of weight and start at a level of fitness I can't even comprehend? It made me respect them ever so much more.... what determination, what drive!

**light_sabe_r** · 11-20-2006, 10:27 AM

Well I feel RIGHT back into it!

Yesturday I went to the pool for the first time in two weeks (been a bit sick) and just did some training drills

6 laps kickboard
6 laps freestyle arms only (using that between legs floatie thing)
50m freestyle
50m backstroke...

Then my foot cramped!!! I was hoping to do 300m each of freestyle and backstroke but I was GONE....

I realise that I CAN do the distance if I just pace myself! WOOHOO... Now I just got to put the arms and legs working at the same time. he he he

THREE WEEKS TO GO!

Offthegrid... You're going to be starting to run in the middle of winter?? Man you girls are more committed than I am!!! You're INSPIRATIONAL!!!

**tygab** · 11-20-2006, 03:12 PM

Light, I think the leg thingy you reference is a pool buoy/pull buoy. That is great that you got swimming again with no ill effects... the important thing for us all is when we fall off training for whatever reason, not to be negative about it and just pick it up again.

I ran my 5k yesterday in a stiff rainshower, after getting in at 3am ET(12 am local). But Vancouver peeps are hardy and they turned out to run. I had a great time. Plus I got a new best time for race conditions. Normally I run on the treadmill.

I came in around 34 40 on a hilly course. Even my marathoner sister thought it was hilly. so I was psyched. I am getting used to running in tough weather so when the sun comes around it will seem like a picnic!

Right now I am people watching in downtown Vancouver. It is a great city. we have been hotel camping since the house has been without power for days...

I am hoping to go snowshoe/ski later in the week, as well as another run or two.

**Crankin** · 11-20-2006, 04:28 PM

Good job on the run, Tasha. I am still doubting this triathalon thing. I HAVE to run tomorrow! haven't done it in a week, been cycling outside, doing my Cyclo-core, yoga, etc. Then I happened to read one of the other threads about tri's and swimming. More than one person was talking about someone who "almost drowned' at their first tri. Now they are learning to breath, kick, etc.
This is what i am scared of. Yes, I can swim, but generally I don't put my head in the water because I can't coordinate the breathing and stroke. In fact, I rarely swim the front stroke. Well, enough with the complaining. I'm giving myself until January to deal with my health club situation and find swim lessons. I figured I did the century without a whole lot of extra training and i was fine, so with the swim lessons and a bit more running I should be OK.

**light_sabe_r** · 11-20-2006, 05:01 PM

You tell one person...

I told my cousin about the tri... now she wants to enter! WOOHOO! I have a training buddy. One of her mates from work is going to be entering too... So we'll all be looking out for each other on the course.

Robyn, If you can't find a heated pool to practice breathing in... What about a bath? Fill one up, put on your goggles and get used to breathing out when your head's down, and lifting your head from the right side only

In primary school we were taught "Left arm out, BREATHE out, Right arm out Breath in!"

even if we could do it longer we had to drill like that for ages,

THEN when you get in the pool practice using the kickboard and getting your arms above your ears. Short bursts at first, no arm movement. It's gonna sound childish but blow out for as long as you can then lift your head to the right. I usually do 6 kicks for every breath... (that's 3 per arm stroke) which is probably why I'm all out of puff when I reach 150m... so start slower. BF is currently training like this as he can only do 15m without becomming all out of breath. (Asthma plays a big part in his inability to swim though)

Once you've mastered the breathing on the kickboard bring the arms in. Go SLOW. And when your left arm is out of the water keep your head down and breath out, and when your right arm is up, tilt your head and BREATH IN

Before you know it. HEY! You're a freestyler! ^_^

Speaking of freestylers... Ian Thorpe's just retired from swimming! I wish I could retire from my profession at 24!!! Good on him though, 8 gold medals at the olympics... lots of world records... He's a legend! Maybe all I need is the size 21 feet he has.

**Bikingmomof3** · 11-20-2006, 05:08 PM

Yay, you have a tri budy! Enjoy the training.

**Offthegrid** · 11-20-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by light_sabe_r

Offthegrid... You're going to be starting to run in the middle of winter?? Man you girls are more committed than I am!!! You're INSPIRATIONAL!!!

Ah, but I have many dates with the dreadmill ... actually, it's kinda good because I can be very controlled about the pace, intervals, etc. And if I die, I think there's an AED at the gym.

**Bikingmomof3** · 11-20-2006, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Offthegrid

Ah, but I have many dates with the dreadmill ... actually, it's kinda good because I can be very controlled about the pace, intervals, etc. And if I die, I think there's an AED at the gym.

Cleaver. See, I run at night and if I pass out who will find me?

Speaking of which, I am very late for my wintery run.

**Kimmyt** · 11-20-2006, 05:55 PM

It is infectious, isn't it? I told a few friends about it and now we have a good group of about 5 or 6 doing it now.

At first I was upset because it felt like they were stealing my thunder, but then I realized TRAINING BUDDIES and better yet, COMPETITION!!! A few of us ran together on Saturday (it was COLD but good! I ran 2 whole miles for the first time in my life without stopping once).

Anyways, today at swim class I had such an awesome amazing time. We ended up doing some distances, so swam 3 sets of 300 meters, and I completely zoned out during the sets, and before I knew it it was over and I felt like I could do the whole thing over again. !Awesome!

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