Quote Originally Posted by DebW View Post
I just saw a Marinoni frame like this 30 minutes ago http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/en_piuma.html

in red, frame only, all steel (no carbon), Columbus tubing, an almost triangular shape on the downtube. Big Columbus dove on the fork crown. I make have to go back there and drool on it some more. But didn't like the geometry when I looked it up - steep seat angles even on the touring and sport models and long top tubes.
Yeah, Deb, that one would have gotten my attention too. I won't buy unless i am very very sure. I will get a Serotta fit (not that THAT guarantees anything!)

I just got back from Italy and it is true that italians tend to have long torsos and short legs...