I have the Vaude World Tramp (or World Tramp II, I'm not sure): http://www.vaude.de/hps/client/vaude...hbs/outdoor/en

The Vaude ones are very similar to Ortliebs, but they are shaped to be more forward while avoiding your foot hitting them. And they are large.

I just took them touring, after using them for 3 years as mainly commuter bags in Portland, OR. They are great, and are still extremely waterproof.

In a comparison with Ortliebs (which everyone else seems to have), they are very similar. I like how the roll-top of the Vaude is tamped down, rather than sticking up like the Ortlieb. I also like the cut-outs. But other than that they seem really really similar. Just so you know that other companies besides Ortlieb make shiny waterproof panniers too.