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  1. #1
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    Oh thank God it's not just me. I am terrible at hills. I was so bad that I stopped half way up, and then tried to start again, causing me to fall over and bruise myself horribly. I hate hills right now.

  2. #2
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    Well Meaux, I think that trying to get going from a standstill halfway up a steep hill is about the hardest thing one can try to do. Don't feel bad!

    A couple of times I've tried to get going up a steep hill that started up at a right angle right off a highway, couldn't get any head start rolling or momentum going at all, and just ground to a halt after three or four wobbly pedal strokes and walked up! Somehow I survived! I'm better at getting started up a hill from a standstill than I was a couple months ago though.
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  3. #3
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    I am SOOOO happy we are on the subject of stopping on a hill and starting again! Nanci- thanks for recommending the "pull off in a driveway, or start at a horizontal angle" to get momentum. I have been mulling and mulling over this issue, as I know sooner or later I will be stuck with some monster hill or a stop sign on a hill... Do you turn around and go downhill for a second and swing back around?

    Any other recommendations on how to start from a dead stop on a hill?

    And if you are clipped in, and the hill is HORRIBLE, HOW do you unclip before you loose all momentum and fall over? Figure you fall over from loss of momentum or from not being able to unclip in time (or a combo of the two).

  4. #4
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    I am just glad to see I am not the only one wheezing up hills. I thought it was just that I started this road bike thing at a -cough- later age, and perhaps was suffering from emphysema or some other such lung disease. I too, have walked up some, but persistance is all, and I have improved. Which is good, since there aint no place to ride here in the Hudson Valley without going up a hill
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  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by alforfun View Post
    I am just glad to see I am not the only one wheezing up hills. I thought it was just that I started this road bike thing at a -cough- later age, and perhaps was suffering from emphysema or some other such lung disease. I too, have walked up some, but persistance is all, and I have improved. Which is good, since there aint no place to ride here in the Hudson Valley without going up a hill
    Age has nothing to do with it. I'm 27 and riding up hills is probably one of the must painful things I've ever done physically. I hate that feeling of getting out of breath. I feel like I'm never going to breathe again! I look forward to the day I shoot right up a hill. That day will come in 30 years. HA!

  6. #6
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    We have a lot of hills here. I started riding regularly in April and could not ride all of the way up the final half mile to my house without stopping. It's an elevation gain of about 230 ft. and ~8-12 percent grade in various stretches.

    My suggestions are to take it as slowly as you possibly can (3 mph?) until you can make it the whole stretch. While you are pedaling, concentrate on deep breaths and your heart rate. I don't stand, especially if I have a long haul (and a heavy backpack). My helpful thing is to count to myself. At about 189 I'm all of the way up my hill. = )

  7. #7
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    Well just to reassure a few of you....
    I started riding 4 months ago at 52. The only exercise I ever did before that was walking about 3 miles a day for about 8 months before starting biking. Despite all that walking...
    Nothing prepared me for how out of breath I got when biking up hills in the beginning. I was literally gasping for air, LOUD gasping breaths, and my heart pounding. This happened often, on most hills except for the smallest ones.
    My DH (who usually rode with me back in the beginning) was SO patient while I kept stopping over and over to catch my breath and let my heart slow down. Like some of you, i suspected maybe I had asthma too, or heart disease or something!
    As the weeks went by though, I gradually began to get less out of breath. My heart didn't race as much. After 2 months I could pedal up some hills I had to walk up before. I needed to stop and rest less often. My awful gasping slowly became just heavy labored breathing.
    Now after 4 months, there are just a few hills around where I live that I can't pedal up, *mostly* without stopping. My heartbeat never feels uncomfortably pounding. My labored breathing has now become more like just deep mouth breathing.
    And when going up steep hills, it's now usually my legs that will limit me rather than my breathlessness. That's a good thing I figure! I know I'm still not even halfway yet to the fitness level I would like to be at- maybe next year!
    My DH and I would like to do some touring next year to visit friends in MA, VT, and NH. Right now my longest rides are 40 miles. When I can do 50 or 60 for several days in a row, I think I will be ready for that. Only a few months ago I was exhausted after 10 miles.
    Just keep pedalling at whatever level you can. Pedal, pedal, pedal- it happens slowly...really!
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  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by alforfun View Post
    I am just glad to see I am not the only one wheezing up hills. I thought it was just that I started this road bike thing at a -cough- later age, and perhaps was suffering from emphysema or some other such lung disease. I too, have walked up some, but persistance is all, and I have improved. Which is good, since there aint no place to ride here in the Hudson Valley without going up a hill
    Momentary thread hijack....

    See I knew there was a reason I liked your avatar here - I have the same bike!

    Now back to hills

  9. #9
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    I'm still trying to find my inner goat as well...I want to like climbing so badly, but while I'm doing it, I just keep thinking about how much I want to be at the top...like yesterday! That said, I've only been riding since May, so I know that my time will come. I do believe that I came in with an advantage because I had been Spinning for months and months before that and our gym starts a periodization schedule in January. We started with aerobic base building and after that we moved onto endurance and then on to strength...which was basically two months of profiles that focused on strengthening the legs through climbing. I'm convinced that this gave me an edge when I started cycling.

  10. #10
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    First off - a 17 - 20% grade is a mountain!!

    1. Hit the botttom of the hill as fast as you can. Momentum is your friend.
    2. Shift slightly before you need to shift so you don't blow out your legs.
    3. If you are going to stand, shift to a slightly harder gear. When you sit, you'll have the easier gear to fall back on.
    4. Ride hills. If you have to go slowly, do it slowly. Speed and endurance will come.

    In the weight room you want to mimic cycling:

    1. Do your exercises with single legs & switch them out. In other words, if you are doing lunges, alternate your lunges. Ditto with leg extensions, hamstring curls,etc.

    2. To hit the glutes - bulgarian split squats. This is a great glute exercise. It is basically a lunge, except your back leg is on a support, so you cannot push off with it. It works quads and glutes. Obviously, you cannot switch these out easily.

    Back up to a bench, chair, aerobic steps, no higher than knee height to begin. Stand about 3 feet from the bench.

    Put one leg on the bench, shoe lace side down. You may need to be next to a wall or something to use for balance in the beginning.

    Now, lunge. Do not let your knee go past your toes (or not very much.) Concentrate on bringing yourself up using your glutes.
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  11. #11
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    Bulgarian Split Squat? I'll have to try that.....

    Although I wish all who responded were as good at climbing as they wanted to be, but all the same, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's struggling with it.

    Brandy, I am so envious of your periodization spinning class. I will have to talk to the people at the Y where I go about offering something like that. If you have any more specifics, I'd love to hear about it....

    Kate
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

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  12. #12
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    If folks are lifting weights because they want to be more 'toned' or 'buff' or help preserve their bone density, etc - then cool, do it

    I do not think that weight training, of any form, will help you with climbing on a bike though. Forces in endurance cycling, are quite low - comparable to climbing stairs 2 at a time even.

    For sprint and track racing, I think weights can be very useful.

    The reason a cyclist has a hard time on a climb is because their body cannot supply what her muscles need in order to keep working at a high rate due to cardiac output and oxygen delivery.

  13. #13
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    hills

    Struggling up a hill vs sitting on a couch doing nothing.
    Walking up a hill vs smoking a cigarette.
    Being slower than the others vs swilling beer.
    Being a "newbie" vs not even owning a bike.
    Riding only 10 miles vs being unable to walk up a flight of stairs.
    Coming in last in a race vs being addicted to junk food.

    No matter how often I fail to measure up to my ideal bikie image, I will always be proud of myself because I'm out there doing my best to stay healthy and active.

    We're out there because we believe in the power and freedom our bikes give us. We should measure ourselves only against our abilities and not others.

    Bike on!

    Barb

 

 

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