hi jobob, "Been there, done that, proving once again that great minds think alike "

I'm reeeealllly bad with names, Ian something like Ian McDonald sumthin like that.

"Basically, the answer was that there was nothing in the works. "

Rats

"If you're interested in riding around the bay, here's one guy's report:

[url]http://www.aigeek.com/photos/2004-biking-around-the-bay/"

there's also a charity ride called Go Greenbelt which looks like fun that does it. Anyone done that?

Back to the subject at hand...my infernal combustion vehicle is a '99 Olds Alero, decent mileage but it is the V6 so it doesn't sip. I use public transportation a lot, take our light rail, and average now about 10-12 bike trips a month which will go down once we "fall back" I'm sure. Raise the price of gas as high as you want, most I talk to will not do even my 2-6 mile flat bike laned commute.

I don't want to politicize this board but it's already going there so, wether your reason is global instability, global warming, offshoring of jobs, health crisis resulting from sedentary lifestyle.... whatever we need to reduce our dependance on oil for sure and bikes help. But a lot needs to happen to see more of that.

Some we've already brought up; we need safe routes-the general public is not going to ride the way we TE members do, they need bike lanes, signs and trails

how many times have I heard "I like to ride but each day I have to take the kids to child care and I have to shop for the family" for women/parents especially to get on the road they need to have access to child care and they need routes to services-not sprawl that leads nowhere-this means planning and...

I hope we all have health care ~ would you ride if you didn't??....

But mostly for our American board members we need an end to the cowboy attitude that you're a weanie if you ride a bike or drive anything but a huge car. We need cyclist to be seen as strong athletes and not just "someone who's not in a car"

well, gotta go walk the dog