well, i know i replied earlier, but can't help do an update. asked a local officer about their bikes, and he said they are a little heavier than regular mtn. bikes and a little heavier shock and do have police on them. I asked him about the coffee/donut holders (li10up that still has me LMAO big time) he didn't find it funny at all, of course, i about peed myself asking him this, ..his response to that was *insert profanities here*. i'm still giggling...