Oops, I didn't realize there was a whole saddle forum! But now I started this thread, so maybe just best to continue here ...

I have the Fizik Arione now, and it's just killing me. Not sure if it's because of my weight or not. Two years ago I did a MS ride with it, but I couldn't even sit on the saddle the 2nd day. Much of 2005 I didn't ride.

The pain is NOT in my girl parts, but the fleshy part of my butt, toward the back and near the center. I've been riding again for 3 weeks, and yesterday I only rode an hour (and had to keep standing up b/c of the pain). Today I can't even sit on the bike it hurts so bad. (I don't need a cutout b/c it's not the girl parts that bother me.)

I tried measuring my sit bones, and I *think* they are 165-170 mm, but I'm a big gal, so it's hard to tell.

I'd like to try the Brooks, but not sure whether to get the B17S or the B67. Because of my weight, I'm leaning to the 67 but not sure about the springs and whether my saddle bag would fit. I don't want to wait until the spring to get the springless version. I ride a Litespeed Capella.