Oh, those aren't bikes I am seriously considering. I am thinking that at this point I need to buy something very low-end, if I can find something that fits me, and see if I ride more with a bike that fits. Then I can think about upgrading later.

Or I might go mid-range and buy the Orbea Dama Mitis, which is just as pretty in the orange, and the bike shop offered me a great deal and said that if I hated the 105 they could swap my Veloce group over. I'm just trying to decide if I can afford a new bike at all. This is the fantasy thread, not the things I am really considering! (Or I would have test ridden that Ruby yesterday.)