I bought a pair of Shebeest SSS shorts this year, and like them , The chamois is not too big, plus is stretchy and thin on the sides. The only complaint I have is that they're not as wicking down there, compared to some others. I do like the shorts material, though. I ordered and returned the Performance ones. I liked the chamois, but not the length if the shorts, nor the fabric. Another good value is the Perf. coolmax elite. I've had a pair of them for almost two years now, and they're holding up well.