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  1. #1
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    I doubt you will become one of those riders Veronica. Else we wouldn't have you on the board ya know?

    Ah, we hinted at this stuff in other posts. I still don't get the how or why, but I have just come to accept that vast majority of people (at least those I encounter) riding are basically oblivious to everyone. These are predominantly men admittedly, though that isn't exactly an attempt to rationalize it.

    Places where I ride hard are usually more isolated (ie...mountains) and away from the most popular routes. When I do see someone in these spots I always wave, smile, or say hi just as a courtesy. Some people respond, others never even look. So be it.

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    Veronica, something like that happened to Mr. Salsa. The local club does some "high performance" rides that involve difficult hills and a fast pace. The first time he went on one, with his 30-year-old steel Raleigh International, he got pretty well snubbed---until they noticed he'd gotten up the hill just as quickly as they did on their carbon fiber whatevers. Then, all of a sudden, he got looked at and talked to.
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    V,

    just in case he thinks you're wearing your hubbys jacket next time we want you to turn and chase down that rider, in your street clothes, flat pedals, mountain bike with fenders and books

    Don't forget to say a cheery "on your left"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    V,

    just in case he thinks you're wearing your hubbys jacket next time we want you to turn and chase down that rider, in your street clothes, flat pedals, mountain bike with fenders and books

    Don't forget to say a cheery "on your left"

    Do it for the TE gals

    Can't you get someone to follow you with a video camera when you do this?

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    SouthernBelle "Can't you get someone to follow you with a video camera when you do this?"

    I'm thinking one of those helmet-cams should do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    SouthernBelle "Can't you get someone to follow you with a video camera when you do this?"

    I'm thinking one of those helmet-cams should do it.
    Ya know, I don't really ever watch tv, but I'd watch that. Go get 'em V!!

    On the paths around here, everyone seems pretty friendly so far. There is the occassional one who you can tell is just out there hammering and doesn't know anyone else exists. On the road, I've found that I get more waves/nods from people on Harleys then I get from roadies. Strange... Just goes to prove that it's got nothing to do with the bike and a lot to do with the person riding it.

    Ok, I don't normally ever do this and I apologize, but... ==>> Not cool at all. Geonz, that was pretty quick and harsh judgement from someone who claims to not do such things. **And yeah, I guess I'd qualify as one of those "fragile" people that you seem to think deserve your pity. I believe you may need it more. (Sorry, I don't often get upset, but that comment got to me.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrayted View Post
    On the road, I've found that I get more waves/nods from people on Harleys then I get from roadies. Strange... Just goes to prove that it's got nothing to do with the bike and a lot to do with the person riding it.
    Where I ride almost all road bikers will nod, wave, or say "hi" (I like to say "good morning!"). I was put off by the guy who buzzed by me without so much as a "on your left"...he was tuned out with his iPod.

    I've never gotten any response from a motorcycle rider.
    Last edited by HillSlugger; 09-28-2006 at 10:00 AM.
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    I'm feeling sorry for that guy. Guess he did the wrong thing saying good mornign to you! Until then he was just working hard <<rest removed by author, who should have chewed out her bagel instead !)
    Last edited by Geonz; 09-28-2006 at 06:30 AM.

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    But on the other hand, you weren't there. She was. She was the only person to observe his behavior. So she is the only person in a position to make the assessment.

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    I think that was a little harsh. Veronica already admitted that it was likely he just never noticed her before (rather than him being a snob). I think her comment was more of a general observation. I know I say good morning to a lot of people and never get a response. Which doesn't necessarily mean they're snobs, but with some people you just get a sense and it can feel that they are.

    Another definition of snob for me? People zipping along on the bike path, dodging pedestrians and cyclists, totally disregarding the safety of others because they think they have the right of way since they're faster. Do I judge those people? Of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    Another definition of snob for me? People zipping along on the bike path, dodging pedestrians and cyclists, totally disregarding the safety of others because they think they have the right of way since they're faster.
    Those aren't snobs- those are jerks!

    I myself tend to not put people into the snob category until they've really proven that they are. Lots of people are distracted when they ride, or so deep into their riding so they don't notice others much. They often have intense strained looks on their faces while they're training (poor things!). Sometimes we assume someone hunkered down with that kind of facial expression is unpleasant in some way, when really they are just concentrating. Others just are not extroverts who smile or wave at everyone they pass. That's ok, they are not me. I wave or smile at almost everyone. I do find that most intense "roadies" I pass WILL smile or wave at me once I make the initial nod or bell ring or wave.
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    I have one of these unfortunate faces that looks intensely angry/upset when I'm perfectly happy and relaxed. (so does my mom)

    It's frustrating, because I get crap about it all the time.

    I wonder how many bikers think I'm scowling at them as I cruise along happy as a lark and at peace with the universe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra_Cain View Post

    We aren't worried about you becoming a crusty rider
    Ha... you haven't seen me after a hard ride. My helmet is certainly crusty. I don't even want to think about the rest of me.

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