My new Riv is going to come in around 20 pounds, with a Brooks saddle.

I went in to talk components today. I was really taken with the threadless lugged stem, but went with the lighter Ritchie one. I have a lugged stem on my Rambouillet, it sure is pretty.
Speaking of heavy... riding up the mountain on Sunday, this guy passed me and said that he has a Rambouillet, but thinks it's too heavy to ride up Diablo. Funny, he didn't get too far ahead of me on his uberlightweight bike.
V.