Oh yes, what they said....it seems biking isn't the problem, but the bikers were!

Riding with a group like that sounds like many things, but fun is definitely not one of them~

I have to think a different group would suit you soooo much better. Oodles more.

For a while I tried to find people and/or clubs to ride with. Overwhelmingly, the results have been very negative while at the same time, I've come to just enjoy riding on my own.

Everyone is different, but I enjoy being 100% focused on myself during a ride, especially a difficult one. I don't really want to worry about speeding up or slowing down for someone, or having to ride a route I don't care for.

So with the notable exception of a fellow TE'r who I sometimes share the afternoon commute with, I ride on my own all the time, happily too.