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    expensive racing bike?

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    I'm trying to illustrate the difference between the state-of-the-art racing bikes and the retro (ex: Rivendell). What bike might I use to illustrate the state-of-the-art?

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    Serrota? Felt? Bianchi?


    (I happen to think Waterford's steel racing bikes are state-of-the-art, but I assume you are looking for CF.)
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    Colnago? DeRosa?
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    Thanks -- that's what I needed. I just am looking for a picture of one that shows the difference in styling. I'll track those donw -- I oughta be able to find what I need!

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    Pooks,
    I myself would use "state-of-the-art CLASSIC" to describe Rivendells, not "retro". They are not antique reproductions, after all. They actually ARE "state-of-the-art" bikes themsleves, they feature common characterisitcs that have been constantly improved and in continual use by lots of folks for many decades, especially in Europe.
    Bikes such as Rivendells are unaffected by the latest ever-changing racing bike style. They are made for riders who wish to ride under varied conditions of real life daily riding- gravel roads, loaded touring, commuting, long distance, AND fast road riding. You probably won't see one in the Tour de France though- a classic lugged steel complete bike usually weighs somewhere 23-26 pounds- a bit too heavy for actual competition racing. It will fare much better in a crash, though!

    (can you tell I love my Rivendell?)
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    De Rosa . . . can you tell I'm in lust?

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    Yeah, I saw that one on the italian website (Derosa.it)!
    Speaking of..
    a lady i know walked into recycled cycles and there was this DeRosa
    sitting there, used and for sale. It had been just brought in.
    It was just her size (she's 5'1" ) so she absolutely had to buy it. She let me touch it.
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    I lust after a Rivendell, too, Lisa!

    That De Rosa, though -- ooh-la-la!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    I lust after a Rivendell, too, Lisa!

    That De Rosa, though -- ooh-la-la!
    Yeah that Derosa is pretty wild and appealing! I love yellow with black. Now if only they had the handlebars about an inch lower than the saddle instead...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H. View Post
    Pooks,
    - a classic lugged steel complete bike usually weighs somewhere 23-26 pounds- a bit too heavy for actual competition racing. It will fare much better in a crash, though!
    My new Riv is going to come in around 20 pounds, with a Brooks saddle. I went in to talk components today. I was really taken with the threadless lugged stem, but went with the lighter Ritchie one. I have a lugged stem on my Rambouillet, it sure is pretty.


    Speaking of heavy... riding up the mountain on Sunday, this guy passed me and said that he has a Rambouillet, but thinks it's too heavy to ride up Diablo. Funny, he didn't get too far ahead of me on his uberlightweight bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    My new Riv is going to come in around 20 pounds, with a Brooks saddle. I went in to talk components today. I was really taken with the threadless lugged stem, but went with the lighter Ritchie one. I have a lugged stem on my Rambouillet, it sure is pretty.


    Speaking of heavy... riding up the mountain on Sunday, this guy passed me and said that he has a Rambouillet, but thinks it's too heavy to ride up Diablo. Funny, he didn't get too far ahead of me on his uberlightweight bike.


    V.
    Yeah well how much did he weigh with hiim and his bike combined? More than you and your Ramb probably.
    What kind of new Riv are you getting? A Hilson? Glorius? Bleriot? Saluki? Wilbury? Tell!
    (sorry to get off subject, but promise not to linger long!)
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    Actually he wasn't that heavy - fairly typical rider for around here.

    The new bike is a Legolas, their cross frame. It has the same geometry as my Rambouillet, but is about 5 pounds lighter.

    V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooks View Post
    I'm trying to illustrate the difference between the state-of-the-art racing bikes and the retro (ex: Rivendell). What bike might I use to illustrate the state-of-the-art?
    I'd say this is pretty "state-of-the-art"!
    http://www.sevencycles.com/road_detail.php?bike=diamas
    Last edited by 7rider; 11-01-2007 at 04:01 PM.

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    Interesting!

    What makes it best for club rides but not centuries or touring? Not comfortable enough for long hauls?

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