Venting - way OT & alittle wordy....

[Brandy]

Oooh boy, I have had to securely lock my soap box in the closet for this one. I'll just let Tuckervill say it for me:

Thanks for posting those links, Tuckervill.

I wish that you wouldn't fixedgeargirl. We've certainly heard everyone else's opinion on this thread.

[pepe6599]

This is what I think... I takes a pretty special person to deal with those "unruley kids", but someone elses opinion of unruly could be another person opinion of behaving. I try to make a rule of thumb that every kid can be worst then the worst.

[fixedgeargirl]

I wish that you wouldn't fixedgeargirl. We've certainly heard everyone else's opinion on this thread.

Okay, here's a thought:

Why is it that an action, that if perpetrated against an adult stranger of any stature would result in criminal charges, is *okay* if perpetrated against someone 1/5th your size who trusts you completely and implicitly with their very survival?

[Veronica]

Why is that a student who has attacked others with nails, not the fingernail kind, the hammering kind, punched a teacher and is verbally abusive to the entire class everyday, is allowed to stay in public school?

I honestly believe that most people who responded with ways to "dsicipline" were rather tongue in cheek.

V.

[fixedgeargirl]

That sounds like a frightening situation, V., and I don't understand why the administration would allow someone like that in the school. At the root of it, I would suspect an abusive/neglectful home situation and/or sensory or developmental issues.

Tongue in cheek humor can mask a lot of buried pain and shame.

[Veronica]

That sounds like a frightening situation, V., and I don't understand why the administration would allow someone like that in the school. At the root of it, I would suspect an abusive/neglectful home situation and/or sensory or developmental issues.

This was my class a few years ago. He was/is emotionally disturbed, placed at my school in my room after the punching incident at another school. My district wanted me to babysit him until the end of the year when he could be placed in special school as a 6th grader.

Yes there were a lot issues. But what bothered me the most was that the learning of my other students took a back seat to dealing with this kid every day. And that still happens in classrooms. "Edgar" is a drug baby, has a low IQ, can't do any of the work required, so cuts up because it gets him attention and he needs something to do. Since he is performing at his capacity, he's not given any extra help and his IQ isn't low enough for him to go to a special class.

Yeah being a teacher is way different from being a parent, because I actually have standards that I am suppose to help my 30 students achieve before the end of the year. AND according to the president, even Edgar is suppose to meet those standards.

BTW I was abused as a kid. I know the difference between abuse and teaching a child to have consideration and respect for him/herself and others.

Veronica

[SadieKate]

FixedGirl, unfortunately we live in a society that lets NBA (and NFL) players attack coaches and photographers without legal punishment. Kids see this in the news regularly; their "heros" abuse others with impunity. (I use the term hero loosely because hero worship of pro athletes is a whole 'nother crazy topic.)

My father was so exhausted from being a parent to all his students who didn't get attention in their own homes that he wasn't a parent in his. As his daughter, I want to thank all those parents who let him do the parenting for them. It certainly helped me.

[DDH]

V, I just want to say to you that I appreciate you. My son has had very good teachers so far except 1 and he is now in the 6th grade. That has got to be one of the hardest jobs there is and a good teacher that really cares is a great asset to society. You are teaching our future generation, and helping the parents of this generation and more.
I'm what they call a helicopter mom, not sure if that is an insult or compliment, but whichever, I admit to it. I volunteered a lot during my son's elementary years and I saw so many things with parents and children. It's just unbelievable what you teachers must deal with. I'm not a perfect parent by any means but I really try, and I feel so sorry for some of the kids I saw daily. I try not to be judgemental, but sometimes it's really hard. I can't imagine what must go through teachers heads with some of the children and their parents. Anyway, Thank you for all you do, and that goes for all teachers!!