GLC - Regina....you two are soooo very correct on this.

I was having a conversation of a similar nature recently. My overriding impression of guys who ride is much like what has been stated....elite, arrogant, pompous, wanna-be's who have absolutely no manners and would never be mistaken for having an ounce of courtesy.

It is really really off-putting because cycling can and should be an activity with a lot of social interaction. I mean here we are riding in a very car-driven society and yet your fellow riders, these guys, will thumb their noses at most everyone else. How very enlightened, not!

How discouraging to people starting out or even those of us like me, who actually enjoy a more moderate ride with conversation from time to time. I can totally see how a newer person would be disgusted with the sport and never even bother - I don't blame them.

I have yet to meet one single exception to this. The only ones who so much as even wave back, say hello, or show any semblance of being friendly are women. Though that isn't always the case.

So the only person I trust to ride with in this city who has class and is genuinely nice is Corsair.