Venting - way OT & alittle wordy....

[CyclChyk]

Similar to
Kid: Mommy, Mommy, Why's daddy running so fast?"
Mom: "Shut up and hand me a few more rounds; the clip's empty."

...Definately belongs in the "Good Wife's Guide" humor thread, though...

Now THATS what I'm talking about!!!!

[fixedgeargirl]

Oooh boy, I have had to securely lock my soap box in the closet for this one. I'll just let Tuckervill say it for me:

I don't believe in coddling, spoiling, back-talk, disrespect, running in the aisles, riding on the wrong side of the bike lane, or lack of discipline. I also don't believe adults always have it all together and I believe that children are one of the last classes of people that it's okay to disrespect, discriminate against and despise. I also do not believe in spanking/smacking/hitting/beating/corporal punishment.

Thanks for posting those links, Tuckervill.

[Brandy]

Oooh boy, I have had to securely lock my soap box in the closet for this one. I'll just let Tuckervill say it for me:

Thanks for posting those links, Tuckervill.

I wish that you wouldn't fixedgeargirl. We've certainly heard everyone else's opinion on this thread.

[pepe6599]

This is what I think... I takes a pretty special person to deal with those "unruley kids", but someone elses opinion of unruly could be another person opinion of behaving. I try to make a rule of thumb that every kid can be worst then the worst.

[fixedgeargirl]

I wish that you wouldn't fixedgeargirl. We've certainly heard everyone else's opinion on this thread.

Okay, here's a thought:

Why is it that an action, that if perpetrated against an adult stranger of any stature would result in criminal charges, is *okay* if perpetrated against someone 1/5th your size who trusts you completely and implicitly with their very survival?

[Veronica]

Why is that a student who has attacked others with nails, not the fingernail kind, the hammering kind, punched a teacher and is verbally abusive to the entire class everyday, is allowed to stay in public school?

I honestly believe that most people who responded with ways to "dsicipline" were rather tongue in cheek.

V.

[fixedgeargirl]

That sounds like a frightening situation, V., and I don't understand why the administration would allow someone like that in the school. At the root of it, I would suspect an abusive/neglectful home situation and/or sensory or developmental issues.

Tongue in cheek humor can mask a lot of buried pain and shame.

[Veronica]

That sounds like a frightening situation, V., and I don't understand why the administration would allow someone like that in the school. At the root of it, I would suspect an abusive/neglectful home situation and/or sensory or developmental issues.

This was my class a few years ago. He was/is emotionally disturbed, placed at my school in my room after the punching incident at another school. My district wanted me to babysit him until the end of the year when he could be placed in special school as a 6th grader.

Yes there were a lot issues. But what bothered me the most was that the learning of my other students took a back seat to dealing with this kid every day. And that still happens in classrooms. "Edgar" is a drug baby, has a low IQ, can't do any of the work required, so cuts up because it gets him attention and he needs something to do. Since he is performing at his capacity, he's not given any extra help and his IQ isn't low enough for him to go to a special class.

Yeah being a teacher is way different from being a parent, because I actually have standards that I am suppose to help my 30 students achieve before the end of the year. AND according to the president, even Edgar is suppose to meet those standards.

BTW I was abused as a kid. I know the difference between abuse and teaching a child to have consideration and respect for him/herself and others.

Veronica