yeah, i posted them also on bikeforums.net on their "show us your brooks photos".

i totally forgot to order some proofide when i ordered the saddle i was thinking of going to a saddle shop/western store and seeing what they had as far as something with similar ingredients.

anyway, i just love it! i thought it wouldn't look good on my bike, but, hey, i think it looks really sweet!

thanks for all the advice/help and suggestions!

karen.