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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regina
    I frequently find pedestrians more frustrating than cars on my commute.
    The last 100 yards or so of my commute is through a bus depot and up the sidewalk towards our office's parking garage.
    I'm usually saying "on your left" until I'm blue in the face and creeping along at their walking pace. Pedestrians are far less predictable than cars, they tend to "drift" on their walking path, they wander around without a glance. And don't even get me started on jay-walkers.....
    I usually call out "excuse me" as I'm zipping through the train station parking lot. People stop dead and look in my direction, which is what I wanted. I don't think non-bikers understand "on your left." My husband finds people tend to move left when he says "on your left."

    But I need an air horn for the cars ...

  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by susiej
    I usually call out "excuse me" as I'm zipping through the train station parking lot. People stop dead and look in my direction, which is what I wanted. I don't think non-bikers understand "on your left." My husband finds people tend to move left when he says "on your left."
    I've said it before and I'll say it again....every time a biker comes up behind me and says "On your left!", all I really hear is "(mumble mumble) LEFT!". More times than not, I would think it would make pedestrians obey and jump left.
    I think only savvy bikers might know what you're referring to.
    I really think it is better to say something else. "Excuse me", "Coming Through!", "Bicycle passing you", "Bicycle coming!", or even just "Passing you!", all would be more easily understood by joggers and pedestrians.
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  3. #3
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    I agree, pedestrians are often much more frustrating. They don't move fast like cars, but are much more unpredictable and often pay less attention. Had a crash with a pedestrian only a couple of weeks ago. A professor obviously absorbed in solving whatever important scientific problem was puzzling him, stepped off the sidewalk right in front of my bike, getting himself tangled up in my front wheel. I of course fell over too. I wasn't going fast luckily so there was no major damage, but still had to get my wheels trued as he had managed to put a small buckle in both of them. Luckily he was very sorry for causing the accident and paid for the repairs without any discussion. It seems pedestrians don't actually look for traffic before they cross the road, they just assume that when they can't hear any cars coming it must be clear. So maybe the solution would be to put a little speaker at the front of the bike blasting out engine noise to warn people you're coming. Preferably something sounding like a very fast engine revving up....

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa S.H.
    "Excuse me", "Coming Through!", "Bicycle passing you", "Bicycle coming!", or even just "Passing you!", all would be more easily understood by joggers and pedestrians.
    I've never heard the term "on your left" and I don't know what the Norwegian equivalent might be. If I'm about to pass a pedestrian who doesn't seem to have noticed me I usually just go "Hepp!"

    It's also scared the bejasus out of a meandering cyclist or two, the type who hasn't quite got around to thinking that there might be other, and faster cyclists in town...

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    Hepp!

    I like that I think I will use it for now on when passing pedestrians.

    Does it mean anything? or is it just a grunt?

    spokewench

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    Quote Originally Posted by spokewench
    I like that I think I will use it for now on when passing pedestrians.

    Does it mean anything? or is it just a grunt?

    spokewench
    Well actually it means "Wake up, you lazy git!" but it sounds a bit more polite.

  7. #7
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    Pedestrians, and the lasts 100 yards or so of my commute, are the primary reason why I got a flat bar bike for commuting...a heads up riding position and better slow-speed control for me to navigate them (and DH wonders why my commute average speeds are so slow!).
    I usually mix up "On your left." with "Hi, passing on your left (or right)" or "Heads up!" - usually that's for folks stepping off a bus with their heads down while they fiddle with their I-Pods or cell phones - or some other hopeful attention-getter.
    For Xeney, yes, I do yield to pedestrians (haven't hit one yet! ) and bikes are allowed on sidewalks in Montgomery Couty, MD. The bus depot area where I ride is part of a multi-modal transportation center (soon to be revamped into a mega-multi-modal center) connecting bus/train/subway, where I believe 1 or 2 bike routes do or will connect cycists with the Metro and MARC trains. So yes, there are frequently cyclists and pedestrians mixing it up in that area.
    Last edited by 7rider; 09-14-2006 at 11:02 AM.

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    Pedestrians have the right of way here. Unless i have a lot of room i don't tell them passing on the left anymore because a lot of them just move to the left when you say that. (My stepfather got hit by a bike doing that very thing, no one was hurt lucky lucky)

    I say HELLO! or Excuse me! and they turn, look, and move.. (this is not on a bike trail)
    on the bike trail i am more apt to say "on your left" because people there are expecting bikes..
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    I've seen a number of pedestrians trying to cross, mid block, planning to dart out between cars. I yell, as a combination warning/magic spell, "Do NOT walk in front of me! Do NOT walk in front of me!" It gets their attention, and may work as a command, as well! Some snotty little teenagers decided to amble out anyway, and I yelled, "YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT!" They stopped. Sometimes I just yell, "DON'T DO IT!", usually at cars wanting to turn left in front of me. I've also taken to waving my right arm up in the air to alert them to my presence.

    It's a tight spot, the little lane where I ride between traffic and parked cars. If I jerk (or fall) to the left, there's an excellent chance of getting hit/run over. To the right, I'll collide with a parked car. If you walk out in front of me, I'll collide with you!
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