All I can say is WOW, you guys were right. I just put it back to completely level using a leveler across the top, and made the KOP measurements the same as with my old saddle. In the trainer I still felt pressure on the nose, pressure mind you, not pain, but decided to follow your advice and take her out since it had stopped raining. The plan was to see if I could make it to the gym, only 8 miles away. At first I didn't even take a water bottle, thinking I'll be back inside for an adjustment in no time. She felt like a dream on the road, much better than my butterfly. I liked that I could tell my weight was being supported by my sitbones and not soft tissues. The shape suits me better than the butterfly, wide in back with a sharp transition to a narrow nose, and not too deep either (the finesse). I had no sit bone discomfort at all, and while I still felt some pressure on my soft tissues under the nose, I felt pressure, not pain or abrasions like with the butterfly. I think its just the feeling of support under me, which I am not used to since I have ridden with a cut-out for so long, more of a squishing sensation as Lisa put it, which I think will go away as the leather comforms to my body down there. OK, the ride was only 8 miles, but I was so excited I had to come to my office and write this email, before doing my workout and ride home (I came in to use the gym at work). THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR ADVICE AND HELP THROUGHOUT MY SADDLE CRISIS!!!!!!!!! As I was riding, all I could think about is that there is no way I am getting on that butterfly on my commuter. Now I just have to decide when to order the next one. I should probably wait until I do a longer ride, and I have to decide if I should move her to Athena (my commuter) for the week, or throw a rack on Isis (my go fast bike) for the work week and keep it all as is she feels so perfect. I am inclined to do the latter.