After the Hybrid ...

[xeney]

I will point out one advantage to sticking with a hybrid instead of having a specific bike dedicated to any kind of riding you might ever want to do: right now, there are five road bikes in my living room. (Plus a trainer, two repair stands, an extra wheelset, and at least a dozen discarded saddles.) There are two more broken road bikes downstairs, plus a couple of mountain bikes and two townies.

We had friends in town yesterday and we had to meet them at a restaurant because how do you invite people over when the bikes are blocking all the sofas? My husband keeps stacking bikes in front of the dogs' dishes, and the poor dogs know how much trouble they'll be in if they knock over a bike, so they just quietly starve. If we each just had a hybrid, the bikes could live in the basement and I could have a real house again.

I need to build this man a garage.

Pooks, I think that if you get to the point where you either wish you could ride faster/longer and you feel like your bike is holding you back, or find yourself avoiding rough trails just because your bike won't handle them, that is the point where you should consider adding another type of bike. Sometimes you will encounter snobbiness about hybrids, and I think it's a little unfair. When I bought mine, I had no idea what kind of riding I might want to do, so a hybrid was a good choice for me, and if I had chosen a better one I might have kept riding it forever. But even so, I had friends who were really obnoxious about my bike, who were openly snobby about it, like it wasn't a real bike. Those guys have $4,000 road bikes but they drive to places that are five blocks away. I don't think bike snobs are the people who get to decide what constitutes "real" riding!

[mimitabby]

I will point out one advantage to sticking with a hybrid instead of having a specific bike dedicated to any kind of riding you might ever want to do: right now, there are five road bikes in my living room. (Plus a trainer, two repair stands, an extra wheelset, and at least a dozen discarded saddles.) There are two more broken road bikes downstairs, plus a couple of mountain bikes and two townies.

We had friends in town yesterday and we had to meet them at a restaurant because how do you invite people over when the bikes are blocking all the sofas? My husband keeps stacking bikes in front of the dogs' dishes, and the poor dogs know how much trouble they'll be in if they knock over a bike, so they just quietly starve. If we each just had a hybrid, the bikes could live in the basement and I could have a real house again.

I need to build this man a garage.

Pooks, I think that if you get to the point where you either wish you could ride faster/longer and you feel like your bike is holding you back, or find yourself avoiding rough trails just because your bike won't handle them, that is the point where you should consider adding another type of bike. Sometimes you will encounter snobbiness about hybrids, and I think it's a little unfair. When I bought mine, I had no idea what kind of riding I might want to do, so a hybrid was a good choice for me, and if I had chosen a better one I might have kept riding it forever. But even so, I had friends who were really obnoxious about my bike, who were openly snobby about it, like it wasn't a real bike. Those guys have $4,000 road bikes but they drive to places that are five blocks away. I don't think bike snobs are the people who get to decide what constitutes "real" riding!

Boy,, Xeney
you have a good point. I have just gotten my Bianchi, and bought fenders for it. My husband says; no, no, you need to use your (old) hybrid for your winter riding. I just want to have ONE BIKE! Think of all the gear I wouldn't
have to buy if it was on just one bike.
And yes, space. My husband talks with great enthusiasm of many ideas he has for the garage. The trouble is, IT IS FILLED with bikes!! (my sons each have 2 or 3 bikes too)
Just one bike, a fine hybrid.

[salsabike]

Mimitabby, why can't you ride your Bianchi through the winter?

[pooks]

Pooks, I think that if you get to the point where you either wish you could ride faster/longer and you feel like your bike is holding you back, or find yourself avoiding rough trails just because your bike won't handle them, that is the point where you should consider adding another type of bike. Sometimes you will encounter snobbiness about hybrids, and I think it's a little unfair. When I bought mine, I had no idea what kind of riding I might want to do, so a hybrid was a good choice for me, and if I had chosen a better one I might have kept riding it forever. But even so, I had friends who were really obnoxious about my bike, who were openly snobby about it, like it wasn't a real bike. Those guys have $4,000 road bikes but they drive to places that are five blocks away. I don't think bike snobs are the people who get to decide what constitutes "real" riding!

Our hybrids are in the living room. (The garage is filled with 20 years of other stuff, sigh.)

I bought the hybrid for the same reason as you, more or less. I knew nothing about the different bikes (still don't -- I mean what is the difference between urban, comfort and hybrid -- I thought there were three kinds -- mountain, road and hybrid). We're taking ours camping this fall and that's where I'll figure out whether we really will use them on dirt; around here there isn't any, except for the mud in the street I had to ride through a few days ago.

I have been dissatisfied with m bike almost since I got it, because of us ordering them online and not getting fitted to them. I have no idea what is right, how they're supposed to feel. A lot of guys on bikejournal talked shaft drives down, said that they were too heavy, etc. And I knew how much trouble I was having riding -- and my bike weight about 34 pounds, the tires aren't slicks or skinny and I kept thinking, I'm riding on streets, why am I making this so hard?

So the idea of getting a lighter, faster bike was very appealing.

Plus, I kept thinking about the LIVESTRONG we're riding in Austin and how that 40 miles would be easier on a road bike, so why do I have this hybrid, and this shaft drive?

HOWEVER -- while I still foresee wanting a road bike at some point in the future, as I get stronger and we approach cooler temps I realize that my struggle with riding has been as much about my lack of conditioning and inability to handle heat as it was about the bike -- actually more. Plus I'm really glad I'm not having to deal with chains and grease and stuff. The bike cost $600 which I now realize is entry-level, not expensive, and I'm coming around to the attitude that this is a pretty nice way to start riding for somebody like me with no knowledge of gears, chains, bikes, etc.

Thanks for the advice, Xeney -- I see exactly what you're saying, and am beginning to feel like even though I would like a road bike eventually, I'm now seeing that as something in the future, not as immediate as I was feeling even two weeks ago.

Once I get a road bike, I'll probably kit out the hybrid to be really more useful for shopping trips, etc.

Oh, forgot to say -- there are no bike snobs in my circle of friends. The only guy who cycles regularly rides 35-40 miles at a time, but feels like he spent a lot when he recently spent $800 on a bike.

Other than him, the others are amazed that we ride any distance that can be calculated in miles rather than blocks. (Of course, as out of shape as I am, I sometimes am amazed at the same thing.)

Edited to add: Well duh, maybe some of my doubts about the shaft drive were due to bike snobs. Heh.

[mimitabby]

Mimitabby, why can't you ride your Bianchi through the winter?

I can Salsabarb; DH just didn't want me weighing it down with fenders.
TOO LATE I ALREADY BOUGHT YELLOW ONES!!

[salsabike]

I expect the Bianchi will look very cool with its yellow fenders, and will work just fine for you all through the winter! Looking forward to seeing it.

[DDH]

Well, I guess I am not the norm. My DH and I started out years and years ago on Mountain bikes. We rode on the road, we rode off road, and where ever we wanted to go on them. We pulled (at the time) our 3 yr old in a trailor until he got older and too heavy. Then we quit riding, because we couldn't pull him and between work and not being able to take the child and him not being able to keep up himself, well we just quit.
Fast forward to about 2 months ago. I got my good ole mountain bike back out and started riding again. DS is old enough to leave alone for an hour or so while I ride, or I ride while he is in school. I ride anwhere from 10 to 15 miles on my daily rides and DH and I try to take a long ride of 20 miles or more once a week. We are trying to build up endurance so we can ride the 50mile distance in the Waco ride the end of this month.

After reading all these post I feel like we are abnormal. We are talking about getting Hybrid's now. Our thinking is that the hybrid will be better for the road than the mountain bikes are but we won't have the headaches of flats and such so much as you do on a road bike.
Are we doing the wrong thing, going from mountain bikes to hybrids?

I'm kind of confused now. I get the impression from the posts that the hybirds are slow, heavy and hard to ride. Is that the case?

[mlove]

I would not discourage anyone from getting a hybrid. I managed a long ride with hills, using mine yesterday. But for long rides you do work harder than riders using lighter bikes. You can put on thinner tires for longer rides and that will help.

No one has made fun of my bike. In fact, I get a lot of positive feedback on riding with the hybrid. I think bike choice is very personal and depends on where and how far you want to ride.

[KnottedYet]

Do you have slicks on the mtn bikes?

If you love the good ol' mtn bikes, I wouldn't change over to a hybrid. Unless the mtn bikes are too heavy.

If you really want to go dramatically faster than a mtn bike with slicks, you'd probably do better with a touring/road bike. Try a few when you try the hybrids. (touring or cyclocross geometry will be slacker than sport/racing geometry and might be more comfortable for you)

Take a peek at the bike in my avatar. It's a Kona Dew, a cyclocross geometry frame with a flat bar. Sort of a "fast hybrid" with road wheels and commuter tires. I like the flat bars for commuting and shorter rides, but for rides longer than 30 or 40 miles I really prefer a road bike and drop bars.

[DDH]

Yea, DH just recently in the past week or so, put slicks on my bike. Before that I was riding with a more street type tire but not slick.
The only reason we are talking about getting new ones is because these are about 10 years old and they are pretty antiquated.
So we thought if we were going to get new ones we would go ahead and get hybrids. The road bikes are almost out of the question, unless I carry my bike everywhere I want to ride. I live in the country on a terribly out of shape dirt, cleachy, rocky, road.

I'm just wondering if the hybrid will be a step up a little as far as speed goes? I avg, about 11 or 12 on my mountain bike and that is with a lot of hills. I would like to go on longer rides but need more speed to be able to get it done in a decent amount of time and not spend my whole day riding. lOL

[Geonz]

Pooks, if going more than 10 mph is still an "event," then there really is no need to switch to a road bike, which will tend to go faster
I"m just too cheap to go to a road bike when I can go as fast as I want to on my 7500FX - though when I got it, there were no Pilots or other models that were more upright.
I'm one of those people who've stuck with hybrids and gone gazillions of miles... but it's a *fast* hybrid, modified to be almost like a road bike, just more upright (which *does* impact speed ... at 15+ mph). While the hybrid-to-road may be "overrepresented" here, I know a lot of riders. The ones who ride "functionally" - errands and personal fitness, but mostly on their own - often stick to the bigger tires & upright. The ones in the club almost all go to road bikes within a year or two of being fully "bitten" - or to thinner tyres if they don't have the budget for a new bike.
DDH, Switching out tires can easily add 2 mph speed immediately... for me, that was from 35's to 28's, and 35's aren't even full "mountain bike" tires." So a hybrid prob'ly will be a "step up" from mt. bike... but if you've already switched out tires, maybe not.

[KnottedYet]

Here's my bike:

http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...6&parentid=253

I average 14-16 mph on the flats with my Kona. It is much faster than my old (and long gone) mtb and my recumbent (which I sold, too). On my Trek road bike I averaged 18 mph or so on the flats.

The Kona wheels are wide to hold some pretty wide tires (1 3/8 inch). I ride on gravel, grass, and asphalt. I ride through potholes and glass. I inevitably steer TOWARD shiney objects and run over them!

I'm very happy with my Kona hybrid/cyclocross/commuter. It's perfect for the purposes i bought it for. (general riding and commuting on a variety of surfaces)

[mimitabby]

Yea, DH just recently in the past week or so, put slicks on my bike. Before that I was riding with a more street type tire but not slick.
The only reason we are talking about getting new ones is because these are about 10 years old and they are pretty antiquated.
So we thought if we were going to get new ones we would go ahead and get hybrids. The road bikes are almost out of the question, unless I carry my bike everywhere I want to ride. I live in the country on a terribly out of shape dirt, cleachy, rocky, road.

I'm just wondering if the hybrid will be a step up a little as far as speed goes? I avg, about 11 or 12 on my mountain bike and that is with a lot of hills. I would like to go on longer rides but need more speed to be able to get it done in a decent amount of time and not spend my whole day riding. lOL

Donna, a good hybrid will help your speed. It should be lighter and faster than your MTB!

[Rebeccah]

Hey Rebeccah, how come you couldn't see a foot ahead of your bike?

and that trek you got sounds like a good find, but i wonder about a 6' tall guy who works in a bike shop who bought a XS frame for himself!
that really cracks me up!

Enjoy your new bike!

Hi, Mimitabby.

I could only see a foot or two in front of the bike because I've gotten heavy and stiff, and my neck and shoulders have gotten weak -- it was too tiring to pick my head up for the whole ride, and if I tried to pick it up *and* look to the side, I'd turn my whole body and wouldn't steer straight. My drop bars are about an inch or two below the seat. Plus my butt hurt for 3/4 of the 10 mile ride, so I was constantly thinking about that and how to keep weight on my hands without my wrists getting tired and my hands getting numb.

Yeah, I had to wonder about the frame size but I guess he got the frame for cheap and just wanted to try building it up. I only knew it's an XS because I happened to have a Trek catalog (since I was shopping around), and he had posted the top tube and seat tube lengths. You're right, he should have known a 21" top tube would never be confortable for him.

But there's no question he's the one who built up the bike; he knew what components he had installed, the wrench sizes he had used (including a 3/16" rather than metric hex key for the seat post), had extra pieces for stuff he had mixed and matched (like the indexed front shifter and one quick-release and one non-quick-release skewer for the hubs, and the third chainring that wouldn't fit on the bottom bracket he installed). The bike has its limitations, but it was easy to know what I was getting, and for what I got, the price couldn't be beat.

Rebeccah

P.S. I took my longest ride in 6 years on it Saturday - 14 1/2 miles, with no butt pain on the B.67S saddle. Yay! Tired quads, gluts, and to a lesser degree shoulders, yes. But no sore butt.

[pooks]

Pooks, if going more than 10 mph is still an "event," then there really is no need to switch to a road bike, which will tend to go faster

Well that's just me having warring desires. Because I'd love to ride faster in general -- it's just when it's going downhill that it freaks me out!

On the other hand, in our neighborhood every "downhill" is usually leading to a stop sign at the bottom or a T-intersection where you have to turn right or left, so I'm not going downhill and going, "Weeee!" I'm going dowhill thinking, "Oh god can I stop if I'm going this fast?!?"

I did find one hill that doesn't do that and am working on going faster on it.